Phil Jayhan

This is getting more bizarre as we research the passengers themselves. Let me first state emphatically that we are not making any claims, and are only asking these disturbing questions about the passengers because we feel compelled by the evidence to do so. For those of you who have followed the Mike Rivero/John J. Wenckus look-a-like story, this might not come as the total shock it will to some. While doing research trying to figure out how many millionaires were on the 4 flights, I was looking through the passenger profiles, and their biographies and pictures, I stumbled upon John J. Wenckus, an alleged passenger from Flight 11. And as I was clicking on the next biography, had the feeling I had seen this man before or knew him in some way other than being a dead passenger. So I clicked back, and looked at the picture a little longer, before it came to me who he resembled. Mike Rivero from the internationally known website, http://www.whatreallyhappened.com. This might not be as odd as it appears, especially when you discover that Mike Rivero, prior to his film career in Hollywood, worked at NASA developing advanced image processing tools for the Viking Missions to Mars. Mike Rivero retired from NASA after working there for 25 years according to his online bio, and at IMDB says he has over 30 years experience in visual design and production. (Internet Movie Database)

So I pulled up a picture of Mike Rivero and was instantly astonished at the near identical natures of these two men. And I mean nearly 100% identical. Sure enough, John Wenckus has a darker complexion, and smiles, something which not surprisingly, Mike Rivero doesn't often do. And the bottom of his face is a tad chubbier than that of Rivero. Other than that, the two men are, in my opinion, perfectly identical. That discovery led me and many others here into a deeper search among the passenger faces which we had all ignored for so long. Let it be known that the first apparent passenger found is Barbara Olson, who appears to be back from the grave and who also re-married Ted Olson last summer. If confirmed, Mike Rivero would be the 2nd alleged passenger from 9/11 to be discovered among the living. And oddly enough, is an alleged 9/11 patriot, now demanding to know "what really happened" on 9/11. If this isn't one of the top 10 ironies of all time, I don't know what would be. So, having laid the groundwork for the first 2 alleged passengers now among the living, we have found another, a 3rd alleged passenger who also appears to have escaped the near certain death grip of Muslim fundamentalists on 9/11.

There is no doubt that these two men look nearly identical. The question is whether Lawrence Ari Fleischer (born October 13, 1960) and who was the former White House Press Secretary for U.S. President George W. Bush from January, 2001 to July, 2003, and Michael Theodoridis of Boston MA, are the same person - or do they look exceedingly similar? While it is certainly possible with plastic surgery and the theft of an identity that this could happen, it is also possible that Michael Theodoridis and Ari Fleischer are simply near identical look-a-likes. And something else to consider, is in some of these cases, plastic surgery can be done to the photographs, rather than the actual people. Facial moles removed, slight changes made to the eyes and eyelids. Nose features slightly changed. Everyone here has a fairly good idea of how relatively easy this is to do for those with the skills and software. All that is needed is a little bit of imagination when looking at the pictures.

Still Developing - More to come, stay tuned!

Ari Fleischers new business; See link below;

http://www.fleischersports.com/information.php

Google Images:




From left to right:

Ari Fleischer - White House Spokesman - Michael Theodoridis - alleged Passenger from flight 11 - Ari Fleischer, Darker Complexion





While researching this, I came across this discovery on 911myths.com and felt it noteworthy.

It does appear that early on someone was trying to possibly undo a bad decision made before 9/11, and try to erase the name of Michael Theodoridis. But after 9 years now, it would be hard to track or research or find out who, although the why would be obvious.








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Notice in this video, how Ari's second cheek line comes and goes according to the stretching of his face and width of his smile. It goes from one cheek line to two cheek-lines. This short video of Ari Fleischer also has some good side shots of Ari Fleischer which are hard to come by.

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Phasmatis

I believe it is clear from the pictures that we are talking about the same man here. If you look at his glasses they appear to be the same in ether set of pictures. Now finding someone that looks the same is possible but finding someone with the same pair of glasses not likely.

Now my only concern which has been addressed is his skin color in the wedding picture. People told me it was a lighting thing so I suppose that could be true or It could be an exposure effect with the camera. Though a better explaination would be that he got a tan for his wedding so he would look good.

This is just shear arrogance on their part and they are right. Unless people do something they will just get away with it and laugh in your face.

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2getherwestand

I have looked over and over at this particular set of pics Phil,time and time again and the dent on his right side of forehead and the indent above his right cheek are what sticks out most obviously and to me they are from the same guy.The pic in the middle and the one on the left are the 2 that i just can't ignore.The middle pic is harder to spot the odd features but close examination of it you can see the scars.Keeping in mind the middle pic is from a few years back.

One thing to try and realize,no bad deed goes without some special place and reward among the powers that be.

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Phil Jayhan

Kevin,

The skin tone issue will no doubt come up. And it really isn't an issue. Take a look at the youtube (See bottom of Post) and see how many different skin tones Ari has in one short video. The wedding picture of Theodoridis was taken indoors, and in a very dark room, and he does seem to be a little hot and flush with romance. Plus Ari Fleischer is always under production quality lighting, and even then his complexion changes. The man in the wedding photo (Theodoridis) is inside with very poor lighting and the only light is the flash from the camera, thus giving that pale impression. Even Theodoridis complexion changes if you look at it this way.

Does this help answer that issue Kevin? If not let me know and I'll answer your questions as best as I can.




Cheers-
Phil

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Phasmatis

Wasn't really a question but thanks for the added info.

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Ethan Hunt

Phil this is getting ridiculous and crazy now. Fleischer was with Bush on 9/11 he was at the school he was on Air Force One with him there's no way they'd be stupid enough to use old pics of Ari to create a fictional person. He was way too visible on TV every day for months after 9/11. The guy in the picture is from the same gene pool he's clearly from the same family tree and that's common among all ethnic groups you are going to have people who strongly resemble each other. I've seen photos of people who resemble celebrities I've seen photos of people who look like me. I think you are losing credibility by pursuing this one same with the Barbara Olsen/Lady Booth pics what those pics mean is that Ted Olsen is a lying murdering jerk with a penchant for blondes that's about all. The Rivero/Wenckus pics are good but when I saw the pics of them from high school it's clearly two different guys. There is so much better evidence available that you really don't need to be wasting your time doing these photo comparisons. They don't prove anything and they take away from the stronger evidence you already have compiled here. The important thing about Fleischer is this photo here:


Proving he's part of the Illuminati and did everything he could to protect the 9/11 cover-up. He's signaling to the reporters to make sure they don't ask any questions that might expose the White House. He's an Israeli neo-con a Zionist which is why he was installed as the spokesman. To make sure the news media stayed in line. Remember when he said "people need to watch what they do and watch what they say" just a couple days after 9/11. He's a bad guy but they would not use an old photo of him to create a fake person. He was much too valuable doing this job and that hand sign proves it.

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do2read

there's no way they'd be stupid enough to;

claim impossible cell phone calls were made,
claim a jet made that hole at the pentagon,
claim a plane crashed in Pa,
let Bush keep reading,
etc., etc.,

C'mon Ethan, get real.

If they had used random photos, someone might say "hey, that's me", and call bullshit.

By using the pictures of insiders, they eliminate that chance. A little photoshop, and the best anyone can do is call "lookalike".

If I had to "northwoods" up some fake passengers, that's exactly what I'd do.

If they really "wouldn't be that stupid", WE WOULDN'T BE HERE.

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Jon Simon

To me, the pictures are close but there are some big differences: the fella in the middle has a more defined cleft chin (not a dimple or scar as Air has), higher and more square cheek bones (Ari's are flat) and thicker eye brows. As men age, their eye brows get "bushy" (no pun intended if that is Ari). Maybe they were photo-shopped. Hard to say.

I do believe alot of the passengers never existed and many were prepared aliases. I think we have to be very careful though as Ethan says. Some things are extremely hard to prove and by going out on some rickety limbs we risk muddying what we really do have.

I think it's a good idea to continue the research but perhaps also label it as "interesting but hard to prove" to cover ourselves.

Jon

Phil Jayhan

Excuse me guys,

I have to butt in here briefly to say something. Quit reacting. And go and re-read the story. I am not going out on a rickety limb, nor am I making any claims. I am asking questions and presenting images that are disturbingly similar and whether people like it or not, questions need to be asked because of this. As well also because there is so much confusion concerning the passengers. So please quit making comments like this is going out on a rickety limb and the like. Please do not put words in my mouth or say I am making claims that I didn't. I am out on no limb. All I am doing is asking questions. I went to specific lengths to say at the beginning of the story all the reasons for the story. We are asking legitimate questions because of the disturbingly near identical natures of these two men.

The point of this story is that we simply do not know anything about the passengers. We do not know if they boarded planes. We do not know if passengers even showed up at the airports. We do not know if a single passenger flew that day. We do not know if the passengers are alive. Or dead. We do not even know if all the passengers were real living people or creations of Identity fiction. We do not know if they used recently, or in some cases, not so recent dead peoples identities.We do not know why only 130 families of the passengers received money from the official 911 victims compensation fund. And we do not know how many of those alleged people allegedly flying on the 4 flights were carefully crafted dual identities,as it appears might be the case with John J Wenckus and Mike Rivero. I have not crossed over into any theory in this thread.

Regards-
Phil




Gentle warning for future posters in this thread; Any posts which make statements such as this is going to ruin the truth movement or the like will be deleted and sent to the garbage can. And people who make posts saying I am making claims I never made will also be removed. All OFF TOPIC POSTS OR POST DRIFT REPLIES WILL ALSO BE DELETED.

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