9/11 EXIF Data Similarities - VERY REVEALING INFORMATION

**The Surgeon** · 20 Aug 2010 , 07:00 AM

9/11 Victims Photos: EXIF Data Similarities - VERY REVEALING INFORMATION

The EXIF data reveals that the photographs were not only prepared before 9/11, but they have similar data and captions. Four examples:

1) David Rice
2) Alan Beaven
3) Dora Menchaca
4) Peter Gay

Look at the Adobe Resource information for each of the four photos. Almost all of the data is the same:

· Print info
· Resolution
· FX Global Lighting Angle
· Color Halftone Settings
· Color Transfer Settings
· Slices

And so on…

Look at the IPTC information. This is very revealing. IPTC means the International Press Telecommunications Council -- it is the standard used for photograph metadata.

“xxx” means the data varies according to the victim.

*Full name probably listed because the Subtitle would only be “GAY” – which could be confusing

** Photographer Number

** Photographer Number: this is the AP Original Transmission Reference. The letters mean the state and city. A code with "100" means it’s a freelance photographer; a code with "101", "102" ... means it is a AP member.

David Rice: OKOKL101 OK = Oklahoma, OKL = Oklahoma City, 101 = AP member code

Alan Beaven: CAOAK101 CA = California, OAK = Oakland, 101 = AP member photographer code

Dora Menchaca: CALOS102 CA = California, LOS = Los Angeles, 102 = AP member code

Peter Gay: MANOA104 MA = Massachusettes, NOA = North Andover, 104 = AP member code

EXIF Data for David Rice

EXIF Data for Alan Beaven

EXIF Data for Dora Menchaca

EXIF Data for Peter Gay

This is very interesting. It shows these photos were all uploaded to Associated Press's new server system.

photorerun.ap.org is the Associated Press (AP) web server

Installed and ready to use for 9/11

Link for catalog:
http://www.deligent.com/ap/APserver.pdf

9/11 LINKS INDEX - Victim Fraud, Media Fraud

Radio Shows - Jim Fetzer & The Real Deal:

9/11 World Trade Center Props

World Trade Center Publicity Stunts:

What does Phillipe Petit know about the hollow WTC towers?

Exif/IPTC Metadata:

EXIF Data Similarities - VERY REVEALING INFORMATION

Video: Fraudulence on 9/11

Death Certificate #0001:

Social Security Death Payments & Other SSDI Related Evidence

Social Security Death Payments for 9/11 Victims

The Hollow Towers & Pre-Demolition of WTC:

The World Trade Center Lighting & Picture History

The Elevators at WTC on 9/11 and the Trapped People:

Outrageous WTC 9/11 elevator stories exposed

Revisiting the World Trade Center Phone Calls:

Revisiting the WTC 911 calls

Fireman Actors on 9/11:

Stand In Actors on 9/11:

Flight 11 Frauds:

Flight 175 Frauds:

Triplets Separated at Birth - Edward H. Luckett, Carlton Bartels, Michael Tarrou

Flight 77 Frauds:

Flight 93 Frauds:

The 911 Jumper Frauds:

North Tower Frauds:

Pentagon Stage Props - Pentagon TV Fakery:

Pentagon Fraudulent Victims on 9/11:

Media Complicity and Fraud:

Media 9/11 Memorial Frauds:

The 9/11 Memorial Wall:

The 9/11 Victims Memorial Wall in New York City - Was it a Ruse?

9/11 & WTC Corporate Fraud:

Gatekeepers of the Alternate Media:

Jason Burmas On Fake 9/11 Victims (gatekeeper)!

Pending Research Requests from Lets Roll Members:

MISC: Great Research Links on this Material above:

Former Stickies for the Hussled Masses:

Pictures of Extra Equipment on Look-A-Like Flight 175 (109,720 Views)
911 For Dummies Thread. Video, Picture Archive of 911 (7,513,922 Views)
Targeting Laser Light Spot at the World Trade Center! (121,515 Views)
"Flight 175" WAS a Cargo/FUEL TANKER (159,126 Views)
New Photo of 767 Showing 2nd Piece of Equip / Port Engine (233,137 Views)
9/11 LINKS INDEX - Victim Fraud, Media Fraud, WTC Fraud

Former Stickies for Pentagon Forum:

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**The Surgeon** · 20 Aug 2010 , 07:26 AM

9/11 Victims Photos: Example of IPTC Information showing Origin and Original transmission reference

IPTC means the International Press Telecommunications Council -- it is the standard used for photograph metadata.

OKOKL101 means it is an AP member photographer from Oklahoma City (OKL) in Oklahoma state (OK) with a code of 101.

**BeSkepticalOfAll** · 20 Aug 2010 , 10:52 AM

In the CNN memorial, some military personnel have missing photos, and their archived photos on the Wayback Machine are dated (complete with obituary) as 2/15/2000. I don't know whether this could be simply a military computer glitch or not.

Max Beilke memorial page, missing photo Archived photo dated 2/15/2000

Kris Romeo Bishundat memorial, missing photo Archived photo dated 2/15/2000

Canfield D. Boone memorial, missing photo Archived photo dated 2/15/2000

Jose Orlando Calderon memorial, missing photo Archive photo dated 2/15/2000

Angelene C. Carter memorial, missing photo Archive photo dated 2/15/2000

~~heavyplastic~~ · 20 Aug 2010 , 12:31 PM

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**do2read** · 20 Aug 2010 , 22:55 PM

Thanks to The Surgeon for taking the time to create this visual and clear explanation of the Exif/IPTC data.

The patterns are unmistakeable.

Great first post, welcome to the forums BeSkeptical! Warning, this research is highly addictive.

BeSkeptical wrote:

Quote:

I don't know whether this could be simply a military computer glitch or not.

The Exif/IPTC standards were developed mainly for the purpose of properly dating and attributing the source of Photos used by News Agencies. This is the method by which rights are secured, free-lance photographers are paid, and other news agencies are properly credited as a source.

Improper data could lead to the use of a photo without proper permission, and therefore the correct information is essential.

911 was the biggest story in the career of any who covered it. Contributors to 911 coverage had to understand they were writing history. Intentionally or even accidentally screwing up the data which would properly credit your work on a story so big would be out of the question. News agencies all over the world would see your screw up.

It would be like intentionally messing up the bill for the largest job you ever did.

Besides, CNN gave the strong testimony about the nature of the data when they removed only those photos with the 2/15/2000 edit date. They wouldn't have done that just to cover for a minor error or glitch, and they proclaim their own guilt.

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Phil Jayhan · 22 Aug 2010 , 04:15 AM

From a research article I am writing now; Below is from Wiki; Far below is my own composition;

Exchangeable image file format
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article is about a format for storing metadata in image files. For information about filename and directory structures of digital cameras, see Design rule for Camera File system.

Exchangeable image file format (Exif) is a specification for the image file format used by digital cameras. The specification uses the existing JPEG, TIFF Rev. 6.0, and RIFF WAV file formats, with the addition of specific metadata tags. It is not supported in JPEG 2000, PNG, or GIF.

Exif was created by the Japan Electronic Industries Development Association (JEIDA). Version 2.1 of the specification is dated June 12, 1998, and the latest, version 2.3 dated April 2010, was jointly formulated by JEITA and CIPA. Though the specification is not currently maintained by any industry or standards organization, its use by camera manufacturers is nearly universal.

The metadata tags defined in the Exif standard cover a broad spectrum:

Date and time information. Digital cameras will record the current date and time and save this in the metadata.
Camera settings. This includes static information such as the camera model and make, and information that varies with each image such as orientation (rotation), aperture, shutter speed, focal length, metering mode, and ISO speed information.
A thumbnail for previewing the picture on the camera's LCD screen, in file managers, or in photo manipulation software.
Descriptions and copyright information.

Since the Exif tag contains information about the photo, it can pose a privacy issue. For example, a photo taken with a GPS-enabled camera can reveal the exact location it was taken, which is undesirable in some situations. By removing the Exif tag with software such as ExifTool before publishing, the photographer can avoid possible problems.

Far below, my own composition thus far;

The Forensic Limitations of Exif/IPTC metadata

The limitations of Exif/IPTC data are threefold;

The Camera records the picture being taken day as the day showing and programmed into the digital camera. Thus the date and time stamp on the digital camera can only reflect that of the camera. If it is programmed to an incorrect date, this incorrect date will be embedded into the picture as the picture being taken day.

When an image is edited, such as often happens by newsapers, for instance, to add that small 4 pixel wide white vertical sidebar which reads; (Family Photo/AP Press) the date of the edit now becomes the new picture being taken day.

Secondly, when editing the picture, if that computers date is incorrect, the date of the last edit will now reflect that of the computer doing the edit, whether correct or incorrect.

A third limitation to the Forensic use of Exif/IPTC data is the digital metadata inside the picture can be changed manually through various photo-editing software.

Feel free to add to this if you think I left something out or overlooked something.

Thanks-
Phil

**Julia.M.Lazare** · 31 Oct 2010 , 12:21 PM

Also "fun" to do in one's "free time"
is catalouging the photos by BACKGROUNDS.
SO many have the SAME back ground
SO many seem to be from the SAME WEDDING.
Also...
patterns in some of the #'s given to the photos
more later...
still working on this!!!

**rickoff** · 8 Dec 2010 , 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Surgeon

9/11 Victims Photos: EXIF Data Similarities - VERY REVEALING INFORMATION

The EXIF data reveals that the photographs were not only prepared before 9/11, but they have similar data and captions. Four examples:

1) David Rice
2) Alan Beaven
3) Dora Menchaca
4) Peter Gay

I'm a bit confused, Surgeon. The first two examples you cite in your post show dates of 9/11/2001 and 9/12/2001, so they weren't prepared before 9/11 as your post states. While the Menchaca example shows a date of 9/08/2001, which would be valid of a pre-prepared photo file, the Peter Gay example has a date of 11/16/1995. What conclusion are we to make of that one?

Just wondering........

Rickoff

**do2read** · 8 Dec 2010 , 12:57 PM

Rickoff,

They don't have to pre-date 9/11 to be suspicious.

For example, any photo with a date of 9/11 is impossible, as it was not possible to be sure about anyone's death at the WTC in that time frame.

For many it would have been impossible to have confirmed them dead, contacted the family , received the photo, all by even 9/12 or 9/13.

Remember, on 9/12 and 13 they were still estimating the toll at 10,000.

This thread is not about the incriminating dates that are too early.

It is about the fact that the exif data on many of these photos is far too similar to have been gathered by normal means. That is, like the Portraits of Grief, they become so similar as to suggest they may have all come from just a few sources.

l

20 Aug 2010 , 07:26 AM	#2
The Surgeon Moderator Join Date: 8 Sep 2004 Location: The Cancer Ward Posts: 1,291 Threads: 165 Thanked 1,669 Times in 464 Posts	Example of IPTC Information showing Origin and Original transmission reference 9/11 Victims Photos: Example of IPTC Information showing Origin and Original transmission reference IPTC means the International Press Telecommunications Council -- it is the standard used for photograph metadata. OKOKL101 means it is an AP member photographer from Oklahoma City (OKL) in Oklahoma state (OK) with a code of 101. __________________ "...it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority to set bush fires in people's minds" Samuel Adams Last edited by The Surgeon; 21 Aug 2010 at 06:52 AM. Reason: Found out Original transmission reference meaning: AP freelance code

20 Aug 2010 , 12:31 PM	#4
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22 Aug 2010 , 04:15 AM	#6
Phil Jayhan Admin Join Date: 23 Feb 2004 Location: Middle Earth Posts: 22,824 Threads: 2784 Blog Entries: 28 Thanked 7,881 Times in 2,899 Posts	From a research article I am writing now; Below is from Wiki; Far below is my own composition; Exchangeable image file format From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia This article is about a format for storing metadata in image files. For information about filename and directory structures of digital cameras, see Design rule for Camera File system. Exchangeable image file format (Exif) is a specification for the image file format used by digital cameras. The specification uses the existing JPEG, TIFF Rev. 6.0, and RIFF WAV file formats, with the addition of specific metadata tags. It is not supported in JPEG 2000, PNG, or GIF. Exif was created by the Japan Electronic Industries Development Association (JEIDA). Version 2.1 of the specification is dated June 12, 1998, and the latest, version 2.3 dated April 2010, was jointly formulated by JEITA and CIPA. Though the specification is not currently maintained by any industry or standards organization, its use by camera manufacturers is nearly universal. The metadata tags defined in the Exif standard cover a broad spectrum: Date and time information. Digital cameras will record the current date and time and save this in the metadata. Camera settings. This includes static information such as the camera model and make, and information that varies with each image such as orientation (rotation), aperture, shutter speed, focal length, metering mode, and ISO speed information. A thumbnail for previewing the picture on the camera's LCD screen, in file managers, or in photo manipulation software. Descriptions and copyright information. Since the Exif tag contains information about the photo, it can pose a privacy issue. For example, a photo taken with a GPS-enabled camera can reveal the exact location it was taken, which is undesirable in some situations. By removing the Exif tag with software such as ExifTool before publishing, the photographer can avoid possible problems. *Far below, my own composition thus far;* The Forensic Limitations of Exif/IPTC metadata The limitations of Exif/IPTC data are threefold; The Camera records the picture being taken day as the day showing and programmed into the digital camera. Thus the date and time stamp on the digital camera can only reflect that of the camera. If it is programmed to an incorrect date, this incorrect date will be embedded into the picture as the picture being taken day. When an image is edited, such as often happens by newsapers, for instance, to add that small 4 pixel wide white vertical sidebar which reads; (Family Photo/AP Press) the date of the edit now becomes the new picture being taken day. Secondly, when editing the picture, if that computers date is incorrect, the date of the last edit will now reflect that of the computer doing the edit, whether correct or incorrect. A third limitation to the Forensic use of Exif/IPTC data is the digital metadata inside the picture can be changed manually through various photo-editing software. Feel free to add to this if you think I left something out or overlooked something. Thanks- Phil __________________ Phil Jayhan 9/11 Blog \| Phil Jayhan.Com Video Host \| Frederick Bastiats Audio of "The Law"

31 Oct 2010 , 12:21 PM	#7
Julia.M.Lazare Thinker Join Date: 28 Apr 2010 Posts: 176 Threads: 32 Thanked 348 Times in 128 Posts	Re: 9/11 EXIF Data Similarities - VERY REVEALING INFORMATION Also "fun" to do in one's "free time" is catalouging the photos by BACKGROUNDS. SO many have the SAME back ground SO many seem to be from the SAME WEDDING. Also... patterns in some of the #'s given to the photos more later... still working on this!!! __________________ ‎"Little good is accomplished without controversy, and no civic evil is ever defeated without publicity." The Daily Anthem Newspaper Morgantown, West Virginia[/B]

8 Dec 2010 , 12:57 PM	#9
do2read Moderator Join Date: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 1,912 Threads: 92 Thanked 4,769 Times in 1,315 Posts	Re: 9/11 EXIF Data Similarities - VERY REVEALING INFORMATION Rickoff, They don't have to pre-date 9/11 to be suspicious. For example, any photo with a date of 9/11 is impossible, as it was not possible to be sure about anyone's death at the WTC in that time frame. For many it would have been impossible to have confirmed them dead, contacted the family , received the photo, all by even 9/12 or 9/13. Remember, on 9/12 and 13 they were still estimating the toll at 10,000. This thread is not about the incriminating dates that are too early. It is about the fact that the exif data on many of these photos is far too similar to have been gathered by normal means. That is, like the Portraits of Grief, they become so similar as to suggest they may have all come from just a few sources. l __________________ "Don't worry about it - Americans don't read." Allan Dulles ...

20 Aug 2010 , 10:52 AM	#3
BeSkepticalOfAll Reader Join Date: 20 Aug 2010 Posts: 32 Threads: 4 Thanked 51 Times in 21 Posts	In the CNN memorial, some military personnel have missing photos, and their archived photos on the Wayback Machine are dated (complete with obituary) as 2/15/2000. I don't know whether this could be simply a military computer glitch or not. Max Beilke memorial page, missing photo Archived photo dated 2/15/2000 Kris Romeo Bishundat memorial, missing photo Archived photo dated 2/15/2000 Canfield D. Boone memorial, missing photo Archived photo dated 2/15/2000 Jose Orlando Calderon memorial, missing photo Archive photo dated 2/15/2000 Angelene C. Carter memorial, missing photo Archive photo dated 2/15/2000