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911 For Dummies Thread. Video, Picture Archive of 911
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911: In Plane Site by: Dave vonKlesit & William Lewis http://www.weknow.com The 'Appendage' on Flight 175, Proving 'flight 175' couldn't have been 'Flight 175' All Else Wrong with 'Flight 175' Showing it is not 'Flight 175' which took off from Boston Logan International Airport on 9/11[/b] Following is an outline which we would like all of you to contribute to in a collective effort. There is something here for everyone. This is the outline of all the information we want, and will add it to the original post *here) when it is added in this thread below, along with the researchers name, for credits. When we deem we have enough data in any category, we will close the category by turning it from Red to Blue. (Headline) There are 32 Categories now, with a few missing, which will be added later. The first three on top are out of order, but the rest after these three will be Alphabetical: EVERYONE OF THESE Categories AND sub categories need to be filled in, so please take a look through the list and bite off and chew your own particular points in investigation. Pick a few categories, or sub categories and fill them in with links, data, video and or pictures. And whatever else you think will be excellent smoking gun material, or material evidence of the same. Post the research in this thread, and instead of adding another post in this thread ALWAYS EDIT YOUR OWN POST, AND ADD TO IT, WITH ASTERISKS AND COLOR CHANGES until it is added to the top master copy. Also, this is an incomplete category list. Please feel free to make suggestions as to additional categories and or subs and post them here. Some General links which are Global in Nature: > General 911 Timelines Quote:
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The pictures below, show the projectile that shot out faster than the airplane was traveling, and beat it to the 2nd Tower; That bright, round white light you see to the right of the aircraft is the same thing that beat the plane to the building and came from the pod. You can can see clearly, the piece of equipment on the right side of the aircrafts belly; It is plain but not obvious when travelling 500 mph.  Above This picture again shows the extra piece of equipment on the bottom right hand side of the aircraft that struck the 2nd Tower as well as that 'rare glimpse' of the missile plume to the right, just now entering the WTC. Notice the 767 has not yet touched the WTC. Below Here is the same spangled image, courtesy of the NY Times, showing the missile exhaust plume (white round spot, 10-15 feet to the right of the aircraft) hitting the building before the 767 hits the WTC; Image by Pavel Hlava  Again, look at this picture below as well as the one above. You will not see anything capable of producing that kind of image on the 767, also notice the plane has wing mounted landing gear, not fuselage mounted gear. As a matter of fact, to the contrary; It is flatter there than anywhere else on the rounded fuselage, and the area is almost flush with the wing bottoms.  911 Video Archive **A note on these video's. There's enough evidence on these video's when viewed as a Mosaic to constitute proof of missiles on both planes that hit the WTC. There is enough in one to constitute proof all by itself, without the others. But understand, the missiles shoot out in what I estimate at a fraction of a second before they strike the North and the South Tower. So it is extremely hard to see and brief. Nonetheless it's there, in each video; As well as the pod which hides and carries the missile. I am sorry that these are in such a variety of video formats, but theres nothing I can do about that; You might have to download the appropriatte players; I, personally had them all and could just view; Pretend for a moment that you are the expert; What do your eyes tell you? Use the Start/Stop/Pause function on the video controller to play and capture these images... Now this video below, also known as the firemans video is of poor quality. It catches the first plane coming in at an unbelievable approach angle for a 767. It almost looks like the plane is coming in from straight above like a Kamikazee pilot, a rather curious maneuver for a 767. Right before the plane hits the building, it shoots out what is 1 or 2 missiles into the building. Theres nothing else that can explain those 'projectiles' shooting out ahead of, and beating, the plane to the 1st World Trade Center. Watch it over and over; You will notice that what shoots out ahead of the plane, first strikes the buildings roof and makes a poof, a smoking blemish on the rooftop of the tower, right before it crashes into the side of the building, at again, an extremely curious angle for a 767. First Video - Firemans Video 1st Plane Crash with Variable Speed Controller - By Tanner Now in this video below of the 2nd plane, you can easily see a bright 'orange' projectile shooting out of the 767 in what must be fractions of a second before it strikes the tower. Notice in this video that before the plane even touches the building, that projectile that shot out of the 767 has raced ahead and beat the plane to the tower. And about 10-15 feet to the right of the cockpit, you can see the bright orange spot penetrating the 2nd WTC. At the time it is penetrating the tower, notice that the only part of the plane touching the building is the cockpit. The planes and engines have not struck at this point. 2nd Video - 2nd Tower Now in this video below, it has been slowed down so it's even easier to see; Use the stop start function on the video's to capture and study these images. 2nd Video - 2nd Tower - Slowed Down Now this video below, courtesy of CNN News shows the same thing once again. Notice also that the pod on the undercarriage of the aircraft is visible in every frame. It is not a lighting/shadow problem. It is an extra piece of equipment. CNN Video, Slowed down for Easier viewing This is an excellent resource of the above video slowed down with a flash controller. Play around with the controls. Flash Video with frame Controller The animated Gif below is from the LA Times Video Archive. Notice that these anomalies are in all the pictures and video's regardless of the source. In the animated gif, courtesy of the LA Times, there is nothing discernable in the first frame. In the 2nd frame of the gif, watch just in front of the wing, and you will notice it is just starting to light up and illuminate from the ignition of the missile; Barely visible.  In the 3rd frame, you can see the whole side of the plane 'light up' behind the wing, as well as in front of it, as the missile starts to launch from the 767 from the pod on it's undercarriage. Remember, this is the final last fraction of a second before the plane's impact. The plane is traveling at around 500 mph in the unslowed video thus making it almost impossible to spot without slowing it down. Original link here; http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2001-09/635083.gif The Controlled Demolition of the World Trade Center http://www.letsroll911.org/phpwebsit...view&ANN_id=13 Now here below is a single frame from one of the demolition video's of the World Trade Center. The arrow is pointing to only one of what were many shaped charges exploding outwards from the building; Many more of these can be seen in the video's; This is consistent with a controlled demolition. Notice how all the charges/explosions going off are exactly the same size and shape as you watch the video's. They also go off in tandem; Synchronized. They explode outwards on the corners of the World Trade Center about every 8-10 stories below the falling structure; This is also part of what allowed the building to fall as if there were no resistance. Some controlled demolitions work this way with taller, larger structures; They start at the top, and when downward momentum is reached, they blow the foundation, so it all pancakes nicely to the ground without tipping over. Link for Underground Explosions - 1 Link for Underground Explosions - 2 Huge Complete Video Archive of 911 - Excellent Resource Larry Silverstein Admits he & the NYFD agreed to Demolish WTC 7 using controlled demolitons on 911 Now everyone heard explosions right before and during each buildings collapse and swear they heard bombs going off, many, many, Fireman as well. This was the testimony of those who were present with the collapse of tower 1, 2, 7 and any other buildings damaged or collapsed on 911. To this day these people still believe and testify there were explosions. For evidence, I offer the following proof, and it's not often I can use the word proof, but this goes beyond evidence; But it is an audio clip, amazingly made on a PBS documentry by Larry Silverstein, the owner of the World Trade Center. He is talking about how a decision was made between him and the New York Fire Department to 'Pull' the building. And there is no doubt the meanings of his words, captured in context. He is admitting on public TV that a decision was made between him and the NYFD to use a controlled demolition to fell WTC 7 on 911. I have the video of it as well, but it's a hefty 110 megs or so. And all of this AFTER the official FEMA report, costing millions said otherwise, and they had all the experts. The official story to this day is Tower 7 fell because of fire; by Jeremy Baker Copyright August, 2003 by Darkprints http://www.letsroll911.org/phpwebsit...view&ANN_id=34 http://www.letsroll911.org/phpwebsit...view&ANN_id=26 |
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This shows FEMA was so well prepared for 911, they showed up a day early, on September 10th! Audio Link showing FEMA arrived in NCY on September 10th The best link I have found so far, being much better and far more detailed and referenced than my own. Its from Physics 911 Org. They have called their theory Operation Pearl, and a far more detailed analysis can be found there. But I had to get you started.  All about the Planes, Transponders, Passengers, Timeline for 911 - in Detail - Center of Cooperative Research Flight 11 Victims List - No Hijackers - Courtesy of CNN News Flight 77 Victims List - No Hijackers - Courtesy of CNN News Flight 175 Victims - No Hijackers - Courtesy of CNN News Flight 93 Victims List - No Hijackers - Courtesy of CNN News Full unedited list of Victims on all 4 Flights - No Hijackers � Where the switch of flight 175 occurred and when; (8:46 a.m.) Flight 175 stops transmitting its transponder signal, according to some reports. It is 50 miles north of New York City, headed toward Baltimore. [8:46:18, Guardian, 10/17/01, "about the same time" as Flight 11 crash, Newsday, 9/10/02] Another lie? Note that at 8:42, a flight controller said, "There's no transponder no nothing." [New York Times, 10/16/01] However, the transponder is turned off for only about 30 seconds, then changed to a signal that is not designated for any plane on that day. [Newsday, 9/10/02] This "allow[s] controllers to track the intruder easily, though they couldn't identify it." [Washington Post, 9/17/01] � http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/t...flight175.html Flight 93 Victims List - No Hijackers - Courtesy of CNN News Full unedited list of Victims on all 4 Flights - No Hijackers The link to the company that cleaned up WTC, as well as the Oklahoma City Bombing, a seismic event log for the day, and an excellent comprehensive timeline for 911. Controlled Demolition, Inc... Seismic Data Event History for 911 Seismic Data Event History for 911 - 2 Excellent 5 Star Comprehensive Timeline - 911 Quote:
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NORAD Official Response Times - Copy from .MIL page This link is excellent; A must read! The name speaks for itself. Muslims Suspend Laws of Physics on 911 - Expose The link below is an interview between MIT Engineering Professor Thomas Eagar and NOVA Magazine. Notice the red text. NOVA couldn't be content unless they put words in his mouth. Several times throughout the interview you can see they simply forget what he says, assume he meant the opposite, (as though he were stupid) and put words in his mouth. I am surprised he did the interview with them. The Debris Field of World Trade Center 1-7 Complex Five days after 911, the thermal debris field was still over 1377 F. (Later during cleanup 3 large hardened pools of molten steel were also found in the sub-basements of 1-2-7.) Remember the above picture of the fuel pattern spray, where most of it went out the side of the building in a giant magnificant fireball, consuming a huge portion of the total fuel. Also note that by the time each of the Towers collapsed, most of the fires had gone out in both Towers. People were seen waving from some of the openings, and Fireman also were able to reach the burning floors and, according to their radio transmissions recently released were in the process of putting out the spotted fires that remained. � |
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So when the founder, (Jack Loizeua
 , of Controlled Demolition, Inc, says to just "Think Jet Fuel" it defies all logic. The Jet Fuel was mostly gone, and more than likely it was mostly debris still burning, according to the Fireman's transmissions. People were seen waving from the openings! (More than likely thinking they would be saved). Now add that together with the implosion of the buildings, and the gargantuan dust cloud and debris cloud that would have coated all remaining Jet Fuel into unburnable dustballs on the way down. And by now, there is no Jet Fuel left at all. Impossible. Molten Pools of Steel in WTC 1,2 & 7's sub-basements - American Free Press - Chris Bollyn The Jet Fuel could not have been responsible for the molten steel pools, even if there was 10x as much fuel involved. The sheer amount of fine dust and debris, hundreds of thousands of tons of it imploding would have rendered any fuel from the planes useless as a fuel any longer by the time it finally mixed with the debris on its way down 90 floors, some 1000 feet. The logical explanation is that it is because something that burned far, far hotter than Jet Fuel was responsible for those pools of molten steel in WTC, 1,2 & 7. And is also the same culprit responsible for felling the Towers, each in her own turn. The High Energy Explosives that were pre-planted in the sub-basement along with the controlled demolition charges pre-planted throughout the building, are the key. They are the only thing that can answer all of these 'Physic's Discrepancies' and 'Anomalies' of the day. Quote:
Reasonably, because of their larger than normal presence at WTC, a large number of Fireman to this day say the know they heard explosions going off all over the place, right before and as each building started to falter. These are professional Fireman and witness's of the scene. And they said they were unmistakably explosions and not the noise of the Tower starting to crumble. And the Gas to all the buildings was turned off early on in the crisis. So, it couldn't have been gas explosions. I will post a link to a Yahoo Search; In it you can search through all the pages, most content which I don't agree with, yet are good to find the hundreds and hundreds of witnesses and their testimony if you doubt that there were bombs, many of them, and that many people, hundreds, reported it. And these sights scooped them up and archived them along the way. http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=fir...=20&fl=0&x=wrt Here is a single surviving witness; http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/veliz-bombs.htm The Seismograph Anomalies Again, evidence supports everything laid out thus far. The Seismograph station in Manhattan picks up both the aircraft as well as the Towers collapse and fall. The strange thing is (another anomaly) it's picks up the largest concentration of seismic activity just as each building is beginning to fall and not when it's great mass pancakes to the ground, as would be expected. And not surprisingly, it still baffles them today. What that seismograph was picking up, were the extremely high energy explosions taking place in the sub - basements, a few seconds after the shaped charges pre-placed throughout the building started to go off. Once they had started their tandem explosions necessary for their controlled demolition, and the Top was decapitated, the charges in the basement were leveled, completely melting a good portion of the 47 steel foundational support columns. This is what caused the helicopter to catch the shock wave, and also responsible for the pools of molten steel as well as the 800oF temperatures 5 days after 911. Quote:
1. These Seismic events show the largest seismic spike right at the beginning of each Towers collapse; (An unexplained anomaly) 2. It can be shown also that the helicopter crew (see Video) that felt the shock-wave and severe turbulence at the beginning of the Towers collapse experienced exactly what was registered as the largest spike. i.e. The Helicopters turbulence and the seismic event are married together through cause and effect; 3. That the pools of molten steel in the sub-basements of WTC, 1, 2 & 7 are also tied together with these seismic events as are the 800oF temperatures recorded on September 16th. 4. That the Firemans testimony of bomb blasts, many of them going off and during the collapse and fall of each building, the seismic events anomalies, the helicopters turbulence from the shock-wave right at the beginning of the Towers collapse, the large pools of hardened molten steel found in the sub-basements and the 800oF temperatures recorded on the 16th, are all the result of cause and effect of one single event; The deliberate demolition of the sub foundational support columns of WTC 1, 2 & 7 just seconds after a controlled demolition decapitated the Tops of the Towers. Marvin Bush, the Presidents brother, in charge of World Trade Center security, United airlines Security, and security for Dulles National Airport on 911 - Coincidence? One single Israeli Company responsible for security at 'all' 3 airports on 911 |
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http://<b>FAA Government Website - G...d Aircraft</b> It is unlikely, as so many have openly alleged, that there was an order from President Bush to 'Stand Down' the Air Force. This would be a red flag and not be hideable. The 'Bottleneck' of the Air Force was rather simply done through one man, (Army Brigadier General Montague Winfield) and together with the two links below one can see how the Air Force was 'incapacitated' by willfull misdirects and false intelligence from the inside. A Must read link with more information about General Winfield - (scroll down to #7) NORAD Official Response Times - Copy from .MIL page This link is excellent; A must read! The name speaks for itself. Muslims Suspend Laws of Physics on 911 - Expose The link below is an interview between MIT Engineering Professor Thomas Eagar and NOVA Magazine. Notice the red text. NOVA couldn't be content unless they put words in his mouth. Several times throughout the interview you can see they simply forget what he says, assume he meant the opposite, (as though he were stupid) and put words in his mouth. I am surprised he did the interview with them. The Debris Field of World Trade Center 1-7 Complex Five days after 911, the thermal debris field was still over 1377 F. (Later during cleanup 3 large hardened pools of molten steel were also found in the sub-basements of 1-2-7.) Remember the above picture of the fuel pattern spray, where most of it went out the side of the building in a giant magnificant fireball, consuming a huge portion of the total fuel. Also note that by the time each of the Towers collapsed, most of the fires had gone out in both Towers. People were seen waving from some of the openings, and Fireman also were able to reach the burning floors and, according to their radio transmissions recently released were in the process of putting out the spotted fires that remained. �[/quote] __________________
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Ya, Ive been to the batcave a few times. Nice site, a lot of great information; Is it yours by any chance? Do you have any pictures showing damage to the south tower (1st impact) where the missile allegedly hit the top right corner of the tower just before shooting out another and smashing into the side. Cause I wonder about it now, as there is a huge crane on the corner of the roof top where this occurs. I know there was one missile, but was there 2? Do you have any pics of the 1st impact of the 1st missile which is supposed to have hit right under that white crane? Like damage to the upper right corner of the building? It would be a big help. cheers~ pj  [web:313f6d6f77]http://www.letsroll911.org/phpwebsite/index.php?module=announce&ANN_user_op=view&ANN_id= 45[/web:313f6d6f77] __________________
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1st tower hit analysis
yes the batcave sites are mine, thanks.
free servers, so there are stupid popups, but cant beat the price. havent done too much with the first tower, but here is what i have... New eveidence that we are being lied too ! The 2 videos ( one which newly sufaced ) show that there was an explosion several floors above the imapct of the plane ! This has serious implaications that either a missle struck, or a bomb went off. The plane hit between the 94th and 98th ploors acording to the FEMA report. This explosion was between the 106th and 110th floors. www.81x.com/WTC1/missle ( does not support netscape ) some comparisons of plane sizes and the wall damage... http://wtc1.batcave.net/1.html Brad New First plane - North tower simulation. Comparisons with other planes. Marcus who has supplied me with many images and anaysis of the North tower has done comparisons of 737-747-757-767-777. I took his images , and a few others aroud that i have collected about this, and compiled them into a page. It compares the size of the plane, size of the impact damage on the building and anaysis http://marcus737.batcave.net/compare.html index... http://911index.batcave.net Brad www.physics911.org |
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As far as the crane goes on the WTC, i think it is used for the window washers, i could be wrong, i thought they were cameras, maybe traffic cameras at first? still dont know, but i didnt see them there in earlier pics of the WTC before 911 !!! not sure if that means anything?
If you look at the site i posted above, the 81x missle site, shows an explosion toward the top of the building, several floors above where the plane hit, it sure looks like a second explosion, the vid quality is bad, so i cant tell if a missle was launched, but it happens a few seconds after the plane hits. it could have been an internal explosion. Brad new 175 http://swallowplane.batcave.net/ |
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Maybe its the wrong word then; But the missile is going 500mph, and going in one direction, it is logical to assume that this blast, its speed, and direction would cause this to occur;
Wouldn't everything be pulled in the direction of this blast? cheers~ pj [web:a7f2b49723]http://www.letsroll911.org/phpwebsite/index.php?module=announce&ANN_user_op=view&ANN_id= 25[/web:a7f2b49723] __________________
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