Nose Ring verses US and State Law - Mosque at 911
Posted 16 Sep 2010 at 11:40 AM by spanner
NC teen: Nose ring more than fashion, it's faith
Thursday, September 16, 2010
While it may be her first amendment right to bear her religion upon her back, the state has the burden of the separation of church and state, that is the state, or the law of the land, cannot recognize the religion of one church over that of another, if they do so, they stand in direct violation and condemnation/discrimination of all other religions. The same thing is true of the Mosque proposal at the 911 site, as to build it, that would be a discriminatory act toward all other religions, as it was the site of the "World" trade center, thus acting out it's purpose on government bought or rented land, therefore, it would be a violation of the separation of church and state. This soft-spoken teen, is not being enforced, not to wear her nose ring in her home or in public places, including her church, but is being enforced not to wear her nose ring in a government run institution, which has made rulings in the past, that a student may not pray nor read their Bible, in a government facility. The same is true for the Muslim, they are not in violation of US law, if they exercise their religion in their home or in the public arena, as long as it does not interfere with the free exercise of others in the public forum, that is, as to block the flow of traffic etc.., they may however, exercise their rights of handing out brochures of their religion/belief, but not by force. Building the Mosque is a violation of US law, even if it is sold to them, it is still a violation of US law to sell land to a particular group for religious purposes, while the state may choose to auction off land, it must be in a public forum, and allow any and all to bid, but the federal government has no such rights as to transfer land to a religious group, to endorse such religion as past practice has shown. If this soft-spoken teen is sincere, and I am not imposing that she is not, she would recognize there are those whom have nude church's in practice, and they should not be allowed to flaunt their wares in whatever forum they may choose, especially, in the place for education on government land. Part of the blame goes to an education platform which has/is pushing social change through education, that has nothing to do with the platform of reading, writing, and mathematical instruction. To protect those students whom are being abused in the homes is certainly a good thing, but to push their own agenda by the NEA union groups of socialism and socialistic change, is a violation of US law and borders on tyrannical overthrow of the current form of government and law by sedition, and seditious instruction and practice, by overseers, and officials holding and acting in an authoritarian position in a government capacity. Their own minister, Richard Ivey eludes to the point that anything goes would include bestiality, nudity, or any other form of religious ideology including carrying of knives etc.., as revealed in his own words, "Our spirituality comes from what we choose to do ourselves". So this soft-spoken teen chose to violate federal law and test the US law, of it's capacity to impose and construct jurisdiction of it's law. tmc
RALEIGH, N.C. — A soft-spoken 14-year-old's nose piercing has landed her a suspension from school and forced her into the middle of a fight over her First Amendment right to exercise her religion. Ariana Iacono says she just wants to be a normal teenager at Clayton High School, about 15 miles southeast of Raleigh. She has been suspended since last week because her nose ring violates the Johnston County school system's dress code. "I think it's kind of stupid for them to kick me out of school for a nose piercing," she said. "It's in the First Amendment for me to have freedom of religion." Iacono and her mother, Nikki, belong to the Church of Body Modification, a small group unfamiliar to rural North Carolina, but one with a clergy, a statement of beliefs and a formal process for accepting new members. It's enough to draw the interest of the state chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union, which has contacted school officials with concerns that the rights of the Iaconos are being violated by the suspension. The Iaconos say the school system is ignoring its own dress code policy, which allows exemptions on religious grounds. The effect, Nikki Iacono, 32, says, is that Johnston County school officials are setting themselves up as judges of what constitutes a "real" religion. "We pretty much flat-out asked them, what guidelines are you following?
No religious institution, or follower of that religion, may come to America and violate the separation of church and state, according to the US Constitution, irregardless, if they be Hindu, Muslim, Church of England etc.., the law protects, defends, all citizens of the US. If any are in America, and are not citizens of the country, they are visitors who must attain visa's and have no rights in the federal courts afforded as to religious practice over the US citizens of America, nor upon government land or institutions. While the individual states may show levity within that particular state, the US law is still the higher law of the land. tmc
What do you need to establish a sincere religious belief?," she said. "We were told that if we were Hindu, or she were Muslim, it would be different." On Tuesday, after her first suspension ended, Ariana went back to school with her mother and her nose ring. She was suspended again, this time for five days. If she comes back to school on Sept. 21 with the nose stud, she'll face a 10-day suspension or referral to "alternative schooling," Nikki Iacono said. A Johnston County schools spokeswoman declined to comment on the situation, saying it's against the law to publicly discuss a particular student's disciplinary matters. Richard Ivey, the Iaconos' Raleigh-based minister in the church, believes it's a case of officials dismissing something unfamiliar. "They're basically saying, because they don't agree and because they choose not to respect our beliefs, that it can't be a sincerely held religious belief," he said. Ivey describes the church as a non-theistic faith that draws people who see tattoos, piercings and other physical alterations as ways of experiencing the divine. "We don't worship the god of body modification or anything like that," he said. "Our spirituality comes from what we choose to do ourselves. Through body modification, we can change how we feel about ourselves and how we feel about the world." The church claims roughly 3,500 members nationwide, having started about two years ago, after adopting the name of a similar group that had been dormant for several years. Sally Gordon, a professor who focuses on Constitutional law and religious issues at the University of Pennsylvania, said schools have the right to issue neutral rules on dress as long as there's a good reason for it and it does not target a specific religion. But she said the school district could may run into a problem with its religious exemption. The Johnston County schools dress code policy prohibits several types of facial jewelry but does allow officials to make accommodations for sincerely held religious beliefs. "One of the remarkable things about religious freedom is that people have all kinds of beliefs that look to others as bizarre but make internal sense to them," Gordon said. "We really can only claim to be a country that respects religious liberty if we respect the variety of beliefs that exist in the country both new and old." The Iaconos have contacted the North Carolina ACLU chapter for help, and legal director Katy Parker says the school is on shaky ground. "We do think she has a right to wear her nose ring," Parker said. Students' free expression rights are limited at schools, but Parker believes a legal category known as a "hybrid right" overrules those curbs. Essentially, the Iaconos are arguing that Ariana's right to free expression and Nikki's right to raise her daughter as she wishes are being abridged. In 1999, a federal court in North Carolina ruled that the Halifax County school system had violated such hybrid rights of Catherine Hicks and her great-grandson by forcing the boy to wear a school uniform. Hicks' religious beliefs held that uniformity is linked to the anti-Christ, a belief Halifax schools rejected. But the court ruled in her favor, and ordered the school system to include a religious exemption in its dress code policy. A similar situation to the Iaconos' went to the courts in 2002, when a woman was fired from her job at a Costco store over her eyebrow ring. The woman was also a member of the Church of Body Modification, but the courts eventually ruled that her religious beliefs did not require her to always wear her jewelry. The ACLU, like the Iaconos and their minister, hope their issue can be resolved without going to court. In the meantime, Nikki and Ariana pick up schoolwork for her to do at home while her peers sit in class. "I hope they're going to stop suspending me and clear some of these absences from my record," Ariana said. "I want to get into a good college."
Thursday, September 16, 2010
While it may be her first amendment right to bear her religion upon her back, the state has the burden of the separation of church and state, that is the state, or the law of the land, cannot recognize the religion of one church over that of another, if they do so, they stand in direct violation and condemnation/discrimination of all other religions. The same thing is true of the Mosque proposal at the 911 site, as to build it, that would be a discriminatory act toward all other religions, as it was the site of the "World" trade center, thus acting out it's purpose on government bought or rented land, therefore, it would be a violation of the separation of church and state. This soft-spoken teen, is not being enforced, not to wear her nose ring in her home or in public places, including her church, but is being enforced not to wear her nose ring in a government run institution, which has made rulings in the past, that a student may not pray nor read their Bible, in a government facility. The same is true for the Muslim, they are not in violation of US law, if they exercise their religion in their home or in the public arena, as long as it does not interfere with the free exercise of others in the public forum, that is, as to block the flow of traffic etc.., they may however, exercise their rights of handing out brochures of their religion/belief, but not by force. Building the Mosque is a violation of US law, even if it is sold to them, it is still a violation of US law to sell land to a particular group for religious purposes, while the state may choose to auction off land, it must be in a public forum, and allow any and all to bid, but the federal government has no such rights as to transfer land to a religious group, to endorse such religion as past practice has shown. If this soft-spoken teen is sincere, and I am not imposing that she is not, she would recognize there are those whom have nude church's in practice, and they should not be allowed to flaunt their wares in whatever forum they may choose, especially, in the place for education on government land. Part of the blame goes to an education platform which has/is pushing social change through education, that has nothing to do with the platform of reading, writing, and mathematical instruction. To protect those students whom are being abused in the homes is certainly a good thing, but to push their own agenda by the NEA union groups of socialism and socialistic change, is a violation of US law and borders on tyrannical overthrow of the current form of government and law by sedition, and seditious instruction and practice, by overseers, and officials holding and acting in an authoritarian position in a government capacity. Their own minister, Richard Ivey eludes to the point that anything goes would include bestiality, nudity, or any other form of religious ideology including carrying of knives etc.., as revealed in his own words, "Our spirituality comes from what we choose to do ourselves". So this soft-spoken teen chose to violate federal law and test the US law, of it's capacity to impose and construct jurisdiction of it's law. tmc
RALEIGH, N.C. — A soft-spoken 14-year-old's nose piercing has landed her a suspension from school and forced her into the middle of a fight over her First Amendment right to exercise her religion. Ariana Iacono says she just wants to be a normal teenager at Clayton High School, about 15 miles southeast of Raleigh. She has been suspended since last week because her nose ring violates the Johnston County school system's dress code. "I think it's kind of stupid for them to kick me out of school for a nose piercing," she said. "It's in the First Amendment for me to have freedom of religion." Iacono and her mother, Nikki, belong to the Church of Body Modification, a small group unfamiliar to rural North Carolina, but one with a clergy, a statement of beliefs and a formal process for accepting new members. It's enough to draw the interest of the state chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union, which has contacted school officials with concerns that the rights of the Iaconos are being violated by the suspension. The Iaconos say the school system is ignoring its own dress code policy, which allows exemptions on religious grounds. The effect, Nikki Iacono, 32, says, is that Johnston County school officials are setting themselves up as judges of what constitutes a "real" religion. "We pretty much flat-out asked them, what guidelines are you following?
No religious institution, or follower of that religion, may come to America and violate the separation of church and state, according to the US Constitution, irregardless, if they be Hindu, Muslim, Church of England etc.., the law protects, defends, all citizens of the US. If any are in America, and are not citizens of the country, they are visitors who must attain visa's and have no rights in the federal courts afforded as to religious practice over the US citizens of America, nor upon government land or institutions. While the individual states may show levity within that particular state, the US law is still the higher law of the land. tmc
What do you need to establish a sincere religious belief?," she said. "We were told that if we were Hindu, or she were Muslim, it would be different." On Tuesday, after her first suspension ended, Ariana went back to school with her mother and her nose ring. She was suspended again, this time for five days. If she comes back to school on Sept. 21 with the nose stud, she'll face a 10-day suspension or referral to "alternative schooling," Nikki Iacono said. A Johnston County schools spokeswoman declined to comment on the situation, saying it's against the law to publicly discuss a particular student's disciplinary matters. Richard Ivey, the Iaconos' Raleigh-based minister in the church, believes it's a case of officials dismissing something unfamiliar. "They're basically saying, because they don't agree and because they choose not to respect our beliefs, that it can't be a sincerely held religious belief," he said. Ivey describes the church as a non-theistic faith that draws people who see tattoos, piercings and other physical alterations as ways of experiencing the divine. "We don't worship the god of body modification or anything like that," he said. "Our spirituality comes from what we choose to do ourselves. Through body modification, we can change how we feel about ourselves and how we feel about the world." The church claims roughly 3,500 members nationwide, having started about two years ago, after adopting the name of a similar group that had been dormant for several years. Sally Gordon, a professor who focuses on Constitutional law and religious issues at the University of Pennsylvania, said schools have the right to issue neutral rules on dress as long as there's a good reason for it and it does not target a specific religion. But she said the school district could may run into a problem with its religious exemption. The Johnston County schools dress code policy prohibits several types of facial jewelry but does allow officials to make accommodations for sincerely held religious beliefs. "One of the remarkable things about religious freedom is that people have all kinds of beliefs that look to others as bizarre but make internal sense to them," Gordon said. "We really can only claim to be a country that respects religious liberty if we respect the variety of beliefs that exist in the country both new and old." The Iaconos have contacted the North Carolina ACLU chapter for help, and legal director Katy Parker says the school is on shaky ground. "We do think she has a right to wear her nose ring," Parker said. Students' free expression rights are limited at schools, but Parker believes a legal category known as a "hybrid right" overrules those curbs. Essentially, the Iaconos are arguing that Ariana's right to free expression and Nikki's right to raise her daughter as she wishes are being abridged. In 1999, a federal court in North Carolina ruled that the Halifax County school system had violated such hybrid rights of Catherine Hicks and her great-grandson by forcing the boy to wear a school uniform. Hicks' religious beliefs held that uniformity is linked to the anti-Christ, a belief Halifax schools rejected. But the court ruled in her favor, and ordered the school system to include a religious exemption in its dress code policy. A similar situation to the Iaconos' went to the courts in 2002, when a woman was fired from her job at a Costco store over her eyebrow ring. The woman was also a member of the Church of Body Modification, but the courts eventually ruled that her religious beliefs did not require her to always wear her jewelry. The ACLU, like the Iaconos and their minister, hope their issue can be resolved without going to court. In the meantime, Nikki and Ariana pick up schoolwork for her to do at home while her peers sit in class. "I hope they're going to stop suspending me and clear some of these absences from my record," Ariana said. "I want to get into a good college."
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