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Arizonians carry concealed, Clinton Authorizes Bombs

Posted 17 Apr 2010 at 23:22 PM by spanner

Arizona to allow concealed weapons without permit

April 16, 2010

PHOENIXFavoring the constitutional right to bear arms over others' concerns about gun safety, Gov. Jan Brewer on Friday signed into law a bill making Arizona the third state allowing people to carry a concealed weapon without requiring a permit. The measure takes effect 90 days after the current legislative session ends, which likely puts the effective date in July or August. "I believe this legislation not only protects the Second Amendment rights of Arizona citizens, but restores those rights as well," Brewer, a Republican, said in a statement. Alaska and Vermont now do not require permits to carry concealed weapons. By eliminating the permit requirement, the Arizona legislation will allow people 21 or older to forego background checks and classes that are now required. Supporters say the bill promotes constitutional rights and allows people to protect themselves from criminals, while critics worry it will lead to more shootings as people with less training have fewer restrictions on carrying weapons. Some police officials are concerned the law will lead to more accidental gun discharges from people untrained in firearm safety, or that shooters in stressful situations will accidentally strike innocent bystanders with stray bullets. "I know a lot of 21-year-olds; the maturity level is gravely concerning sometimes," said El Mirage Police Chief Mike Frazier, an Arizona Association of Chiefs of Police board member. "If you're going to be carrying a weapon you should know what the law is and how to use it." However, the measure was supported by police unions representing rank-and-file officers, who said their best friend on the streets is a law-abiding citizen equipped to protect themselves or others. The police chiefs group initially opposed the bill but then took a neutral stance after some provisions were changed at their request. Brewer's office also participated in negotiations on changes to the bill. A Democratic leader, Rep. Kyrsten Sinema, of Phoenix, said the bill deprives law enforcement of a tool "to separate good guys from the bad guys." With a permit requirement, police encountering a person with a concealed gun but no permit had reason to suspect that person was not a law-abiding citizen, she said. The Arizona Citizens Defense League, a gun-rights group that lobbied for passage of the "constitutional carry" bill, said gun owners foregoing permits still should get training. "The heaviest thing about wearing a firearm is the responsibility that comes with it," the group said. Arizona's permissive gun laws gained national attention last year when a man openly carried a semiautomatic rifle to a Phoenix protest outside a speech by President Barack Obama. Nearly all adults can already carry a weapon openly in Arizona, and supporters of looser laws argue that gun owners shouldn't face additional restrictions just because they want to hide the weapon. Currently, carrying a hidden firearm without a permit is a misdemeanor punishable by up to six months in jail and a fine of up to $2,500. Forty-five other states require permits for hidden guns, and two states Illinois and Wisconsin prohibit them altogether. Federal law requires anyone buying a gun from a licensed dealer to undergo a background check, but that requirement does not apply to sales by individuals who aren't dealers. Arizona's law won't change that. Under the Arizona legislation, people carrying a concealed weapon will be required to tell a police officer that if asked, and the officer can temporarily take the weapon while communicating with the person. More than 154,000 people have permits to carry a concealed weapon in Arizona. The bill acted on by Brewer was the first attempt to lift the permit requirement to reach an Arizona governor's desk. Brewer's predecessor, Democrat Janet Napolitano, in 2007 vetoed two related bills. One would have reduced penalties for carrying a concealed weapon without a permit. The other would have allowed a person without a permit to carry a gun largely concealed as long as any part of it or its holster was visible. Brewer in 2008 signed into law a bill allowing a person with a permit to take a gun into a restaurant or bar serving alcohol as long as the establishment doesn't prohibit it and the person isn't drinking alcohol. Napolitano vetoed a similar bill in 2005.
Clinton alludes to 1995 bombing, says words matter

WASHINGTON – Former President Bill Clinton warned of a slippery slope from angry anti-government rhetoric to violence like the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, saying "the words we use really do matter." The two-term Democratic president insisted he wasn't trying to restrict free speech, but in remarks Friday he said incendiary language can be taken the wrong way by some Americans. He drew parallels to words demonizing the government before Oklahoma City. On April 19, 1995, an anti-government conspiracy led by Army veteran Timothy McVeigh exploded a truck bomb outside the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, killing 168 people. "What we learned from Oklahoma City is not that we should gag each other or that we should reduce our passion for the positions we hold — but that the words we use really do matter, because there's this vast echo chamber, and they go across space and they fall on the serious and the delirious alike. They fall on the connected and the unhinged alike," he said. "One of the things that the conservatives have always brought to the table in America is a reminder that no law can replace personal responsibility. And the more power you have and the more influence you have, the more responsibility you have." Clinton made the remarks at events sponsored by the Center for American Progress Action Fund on the upcoming anniversary of the bombing. He mentioned the rancorous fight over President Barack Obama's health care overhaul. Passage of the law elicited threats against some lawmakers. "I'm glad they're fighting over health care and everything else. Let them have at it. But I think that all you have to do is read the paper every day to see how many people there are who are deeply, deeply troubled," he said. He also alluded to the anti-government tea party movement, which held protests in several states Thursday. At the Washington rally, Republican Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota railed against "gangster government." Clinton argued that the Boston Tea Party was in response to taxation without representation. The current protesters, he said, are challenging taxation by elected officials, and the demonstrators have the power to vote them out of office. "By all means keep fighting, by all means, keep arguing," he said. "But remember, words have consequences as much as actions do, and what we advocate, commensurate with our position and responsibility, we have to take responsibility for. We owe that to Oklahoma City."
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Liberal talk radio host Mike Malloy lashed out at conservative commentator Glenn Beck, a recovering alcoholic, told his radio audiend "I have good news to report. Glenn Beck appears closer to suicide. I'm hoping that he does it on camera....given his alcoholism and his tendencies towards self-destruction, I am only hoping that when Glenn Beck does put a gun to his head and pulls the trigger, that it’s on television, because somebody will capture it on YouTube and it will be the most popular little piece of video for months."
In 2007, White House Press Secretary Tony Snow announced his cancer had returned. Commentators on the left-wing Daily Kos website remarked, "the world would be better off without him".
Former Democratic President Bill Clinton, when asking Sen. Ted Kennedy for his endorsement of Hillary Clinton, said of Obama: "A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee."
Hey, slick Willie, how about the words of Ayers and Doryn that Obama has called close friends for decades. Seems those two went well beyond words and set off bombs that killed people. I guess that's an "inconvienent truth" for political discussion, huh?
The tell-all book Game Change reports that Senate Democratic Majority Leader Harry Reid said America would vote for Barack Obama because he was a "light-skinned" African-American "with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one."
Clinton is right, words really DO matter. ...Like the words he used when he lied to Congress, leading to his impeachment. What Billy Boy failed to address was the root cause of all of the current unrest and anger, the liberal agenda.
Barack Obama's pastor and mentor Jeremiah Wright, being asked a question about Obama, said, "Them Jews aren't going to let him talk to me." The story was buried by the liberal-aligned MSM.
So, now Clinton is giving the go-ahead for some democrat to blowup another building trying to defame and dismantle the tea party, nice try, Mr. Clinton but we remember your infamous coverups and destruction to the housing markets, you do not get off that easy no matter how many buildings are in your plans to be bombed or blownup. GATT, NAFTA, Community Reinvestment Act, redlining, Vince Foster, Whitewater, Maryjoe Kopeckinnek, Blue Dress, World Trade Center bombing just to name a few. Not to mention your role modeling for Big Mac's and making the children desire obesity now Michelle's dilema.

You do remember who Clinton called the list of terrorist or the definition of a terrorist?
It was defined as Evangelical Christians who believe in the return of Jesus Christ, now it is people who want the Constitution to be obeyed and followed, next it will probably be anyone breathing that they do not want to breath, O wait that is the unborn persons called babies and children and don't forget the Obama death brigades for the elderly, another meaning from cradle to grave I suppose. Just think the elderly still support the ones calling for their death - AARP and the democrats still support losing the rest of the jobs they have - Union and Clinton their lover gave their jobs overseas through NAFTA and GATT but they still love a lover - go figure.

yep just like a bad penny,theres bill,showed up in haiti to block the runway so rescue and aid had to be diverted to another airport 24 hrs away his mention of the OKC bombing,makes no sense,the FBI reported 3 bombs that day 1 in th truck,2 inside,how did mcveigh get them 2 inside? was he given a set of keys?who helped him carry them inside and distribute them? supposedly he was by himself when stopped.if he did not have keys them who put the other 2 inside? because it could not have been mcveigh.how could have found him so fast and put him at the scene of the crime? wonder if bill will define this?

"Former President Clinton"...this guy is no former President...he's criminal. He pressured Congress to repeal Glass-Steagle (pardon spelling), and they did it. Then, he became the poster for the Chinese and the WTO. Tell you what Mr. Clinton: you say words matter, well, try these on for size. You should be arrested, along with your "dog", Hillary, Barry (aka, Barack), Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi...and, oh yes, John McCain, George W., Tricky Dick Cheney, Uncle Joe Biden, Al Gore (that fat mfa), George (the First) Bush, and a few others...but I think you're in good company, and you get the drift, and then, very seriously, we take all of you f..ing traitors to the Flag, our nation, our Declaration of Independence, our Constitution, our Bill of Rights, and our laws (the laws based upon common sense and our legacy I just mentioned), and ship your asses to Gitmo, permanently, and let you see how it is to be imprisoned, starved, homeless...without healthcare (quality healthcare). How do you like those words old man? Just because you got to shake hands with JFK, doesn't mean your God, and didn't give you the right to sell us out...us, being the true citizens of this, the greatest nation on the face of earth...that was until you and people like you came to "power". And you should be grateful that we would let you live at Gitmo instead of doing to you what you allowed terrorists to do to our servicemen and our fellow civilians.

Words do matter Clinton. Thoughts, words and actions, and you sir are no one to be lecturing this great nation about ethical behavior, morality and upright living. You are a disgrace, and by God, I hope someone, somewhere will one day lock you up, and throw away the key.

Words do matter Clinton. At least you got one thing right in your life. Words do matter!!!

When asked what Bill thought of Rwanda
he denied ever knowing her
Topless Colo. gardner wins fight with landlord
BOULDER, Colo. – A Colorado woman who likes to garden wearing only a yellow thong and pink gloves has won her fight with her landlords, who wanted her to cover up. Boulder Housing Partners has decided not to outlaw tenants from going topless outside. That will allow 52-year-old Catharine Pierce to keep gardening the way she likes. Betsey Martens with the city housing authority noted Wednesday that the Boulder City Council recently voted to continue to exempt female toplessness from a ban on public nudity. Martens said the council's action reflects the community's values. The housing authority had threatened to evict Pierce and her husband, Robert, after getting complaints from neighbors and passers-by. Robert Pierce said he's happy with the housing authority's decision

Obama makes light of anti-tax protests

April 15, 2010

Miami - President Barack Obama said Thursday he's amused by the anti-tax tea party protests that have been taking place around Tax Day. Obama told a fundraiser in Miami that he's cut taxes, contrary to the claims of protesters. "You would think they'd be saying thank you," he said. At that, many in the crowd at the Adrienne Arsht Center for the Performing Arts stood and yelled, "Thank you!" The fundraiser was one of two Obama held after a speech at Cape Canaveral on his administration's space policy. The other was hosted by Gloria and Emilio Estefan, a $30,400-per-couple fete that stirred some controversy in the traditionally Republican Cuban-American community. Together, the events raised $2.5 million for the Democratic National Committee. DNC Chairman Tim Kaine spoke before Obama and delivered a sobering assessment of the party's chances in the November midterm elections, noting that the party in power traditionally sustains losses in the midterms. "There are a lot of prognosticators who are saying this is going to be a very tough year for the Democrats," Kaine said. "We sort of have to assume that we're running into a headwind," Kaine said, but he contended Democrats were accustomed to being underdogs. Obama called on Republicans and Democrats to come together to pass strong financial regulation legislation. He said every member of Congress would have to decide "between special interests and the American people." Obama cheered the special-election victory of Florida Democratic state Sen. Ted Deutch in Tuesday's special election to replace retiring Democratic Rep. Robert Wexler. It was the first House election since passage of his controversial health care bill and Obama noted that commentators viewed the election as a referendum on that legislation or on Obama himself. "And it was!" he said.
It is best to get them out this november irregardless if they vote for it or not, they did not commit, this is why McCain did not win.

Eight Republicans who may break ranks on bank bill

April 15, 2010
The Republican rhetoric sounded tough on financial regulatory reform early this week. “Shame on the president,” said Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass.), who complained that President Barack Obama was derailing bipartisan negotiations on Wall Street reform for short-term political gain. But behind such tough talk is a realization within Republican ranks that several of their own may find themselves voting with Obama when the final Wall Street reform deal comes together. “Some feel like you need to vote for it, just because it’s a popular measure,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.). What’s striking about the potential GOP “yes” votes is how they differ from the usual suspects who were the focus of such heated speculation during the health care debate. In addition to such perennial GOP maybes as Graham and Sens. Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe of Maine, lobbyists are also talking about Republican senators closer to the core of the party who might side with Obama, including Bob Bennett of Utah and perhaps even John McCain of Arizona. Call them the unusual suspects. Democrats need at least one GOP vote, and the speculation is intensifying as Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) says he wants to bring the bill to the Senate floor as early as next week. But one Republican financial lobbyist predicts a domino effect if Republicans get on board: “If one goes, 20 will go. It will be ‘open the floodgates.’” Here are the eight senators Wall Street is watching most closely:

Saxby Chambliss

The Georgian is the ranking member on the Senate Agriculture Committee, where he has taken a lead role in negotiating the derivatives piece of the bill with Democratic chairwoman Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas. Derivatives are enormously important to large agribusinesses that use them to hedge commodity price risks, but Chambliss has his nose out of joint because Lincoln introduced a liberal-friendly version of the bill without his input earlier this week. Still, if the bill can somehow be dragged back toward him, Chambliss may want to be part of the deal. “We would like to get a bipartisan bill,” he said. “We would all like to eliminate this too-big-to-fail issue. That’s not an issue that’s going to have any disagreement between Democrats and Republicans. How we get there is where the disagreements will be.” Can you say “Dodd-Chambliss?”

Scott Brown

He was mad at the president at the beginning of the week. But some on Wall Street are convinced that by the end of the debate he’ll be with Obama for the final vote. That’s because he’s a Massachusetts Republican, after all, despite his tea party cred and high-profile campaign against Obama’s health care bill. Republicans are a rare enough breed in New England, and they generally don’t survive long if they don’t hew close to the political center. “The bottom line is, where there are problems [on Wall Street], we should fix them,” Brown said. And he added that he will take a hard look at the proposals, on which he is just getting up to speed. “I’m not going to vote on anything or make any statements until I read the bills,” he said.

Bob Corker

The first-term senator from Tennessee shocked his GOP colleagues by stepping up to take over the role of lead Republican negotiator on regulatory reform when negotiations between Senate Banking Committee Chairman Chris Dodd and ranking Republican Richard Shelby broke down. That’s a no-no in the seniority-obsessed Senate, but Corker made himself into an integral deal maker on the bill. Now that Shelby’s back at the table, Corker may relish a chance to be the closer. Lobbyists wonder whether he wants the bill to be named “Dodd-Corker,” to secure a place in financial history. “I think we all want to see financial regulation take place; I really do,” said Corker. And of the areas in dispute, he said, “These things are very solvable. It just takes a little grind-it-out work.” Corker also has made it clear that he thinks the Republicans would be making a political mistake to stand against the bill. “I will be stunned if we do not reach a bipartisan agreement. ... Unfortunately, the winds are blowing — there’s lots of things happening here that don’t aid that effort, but at the end of the day, I think we’re going to have a solid bipartisan effort,” he told ABC’s “Good Morning America” on Thursday.

John McCain

Many lobbyists say they are watching Obama’s former presidential rival — perhaps the most unusual of the unusual suspects — because he’s engaged in a heated Arizona Republican primary with former Rep. J. D. Hayworth. Financial observers have concluded that McCain’s vote will depend entirely on his analysis of how it plays among Arizona primary voters. “If McCain decides that doing this will help him beat J.D. Hayworth, he’ll do it,” says one. McCain formed an unlikely alliance with Sen. Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.) to propose reinstating the Depression-era Glass-Steagall Act, which separated commercial banking from investment banking. That law was repealed in the late 1990s, and many critics say it allowed for the growth of mammoth and risky investment banks. Fully reinstating the law would be further than the Obama administration has proposed.

But for now, Wall Street can breathe easy. Asked if he or other Republicans might vote for the bill, McCain offered a terse “no” and stepped quickly into an elevator.

Bob Bennett

The Utah Republican is another old-line senator facing a tough primary fight back home, which means many put him in the same category as McCain — a possible yes, but only if it plays well on the ground in Utah.

Bennett seemed more open to the idea than McCain, telling POLITICO simply, “I think it’s far too early to engage in that sort of speculation.”

Kit Bond

He’s retiring this year, which gives the Missouri senator a lot of freedom and puts him squarely in the cross hairs of the administration, which is targeting GOP retirees for special wooing. But asked if he would support the bill, Bond said he’d vote for it “when there’s a decent bill.” But, he said, “there’s so many problems with this bill now.” He would not elaborate.

Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins

Both Maine senators are moderates and squarely in the usual-suspects camp, because each was earlier seen as a potential defector on health care. “I’m looking at everything,” Snowe said. “I have not made any decisions.” For her part, Collins said, “We need to prevent large financial firms from holding taxpayers hostage. I’m still looking at issues.” Collins said she’s got a host of concerns, including the bill approach on too big to fail, the authority of a proposed council of financial regulators, gaps in regulatory authority and derivatives.

Eight Republicans who may break ranks on bank bill

April 15, 2010

From Politico:

Because of family problems, personal problems, and unsure of what the tea party is trying to accomplish the following have decided they may not want to run or be elected again, they say politics as usual is over and it is time to be bi-partisan until re-election is completed in November -

1. Bob Bennett R-Utah, 2. Kit Bond R-Missouri - who has no family or friends to endorse in political fields, 3. Scott Brown R- Massachusetts, 4. Saxby Chambliss R-Georgia, 5. Susan Collins R-Maine, 6. Bob Corker R-Tennessee, 7. John McCain R-Arizonia, 8. Olympia Snowe R-Maine

The conservative base appreciates and applauds their decision to exit the political arena of politics as usual and we would like to wish them luck in the private sector, "Sometimes, it is best to play the hand your dealt" The elited eight.

Take it easy on the idiots, if some Republicans don't "get it" and cannot understand the tea party and the "fed up" with taxation and stupidity of the government, then you can understand why the idiots cannot "get it" they like being spoon-fed and diapered and refuse to grow up and work, so be gentle with them. Imagine how you would feel if you had to be a prostitute for a party and want more money but the conservatives kept interfering with your gravy train. Without a union to tell them what and who to obey, they would be lost and probably starve in a day or two, dey luv dem dravy n bisits.

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