BURNING Edna Cintron, The Waving Woman, 911 Hoax

**do2read** · 7 Aug 2010 , 01:09 AM

Edna Cintron is the Woman identified as standing in the "hole" and waving on 911. She was captured in many photographs and videos, and has long been debated as proof that there were no raging infernos of jet fuel prior to the Tower's "collapse". While this may be true, there is much more valuable evidence in the Edna Cintron Show.

First of all, Phil discovered that the CNN Memorial photo of Edna had Exif/IPTC data embedded in it which showed it was last manipulated, Obituary included on March 9, 2001.

The photo, with the obituary embedded in it, was last edited more than 6 months prior to 911. This can ONLY mean that the Edna Cintron hoax was prepared more than half a year prior to the events of 911.

For some background to understand the hoax, Rosalee Grable has some great information on Edna at her site. Original link: http://thewebfairy.com/911/edna/index.htm

Meet Edna Cintron

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http://youtube.com/ednacintron

Edna Cintron's Last Stand

Unless you know where to look, you likely cannot see Edna Cintron standing in the plane shape hole. When you mouse over the picture, you can see she was waving for rescue for quite a long time. The fires that blazed above her have burned out, and she still hasn't given up hope.

Two Seconds From the End of the World

In two stills from a NIST report Edna Cintron shows that the report is a pack of lies, cos she's standing at the junction of where the fuselage and wingroot would have been, at the nexus of the gastanks, and the center point of any resulting blaze.

from http://thewebfairy.com/911/edna/nist
another view of Edna waving, from a greater distance:
http://thewebfairy.com/911/humanwaving
We know it is her because her family identified her by her hair, dress, and gutsy persistance.

http://www.september11victims.com/se...nfo.asp?ID=731
http://www.the7thfire.com/9-11/World...ng_unferno.htm
http://www.russbaker.com/The%20World...%20Tragedy.htm

Edna is waving for a long time. She is waving when the fires are burning. She is still waving when the fires are out. For all of this time Edna is standing out on the edge, in a precarious position, when there are no flames or even smoke behind her or near her. But she stays and waves, instead of trying to escapeto the safety of the building behind her, which is not on fire for most of the time.

One video from just before the Tower comes down, shows Edna still on her perch, but something is different.

YouTube- ‪Edna Burning‬&lrm;

She appears to still be there, yet she is no longer waving. She is propped up against the beam, and seems to be "flapping" in the wind, much like a scarecrow. Her arm is flailing around, and she is obviously not even holding on, yet she somehow maintains her precarious position on the edge of death.

Some see her in this video as being on fire, but whether she is or not, she does not look or behave like a real person any longer. If she is on fire, all the more reason she could not stand there, flapping in the wind.

The Edna Cintron Hoax had one main objective, to convince us there were people trapped, waving for help, still present when the Tower came down. As part of the Jumpers Show, they were the only death we "saw" on 911.

Judging by the progression of the above photos and video, Edna, or whoever she really was, appeared in the hole, and waved. She remained in the hole long enough to be captured by several video and still cameras. Shortly before the collapse, she changes position, stops waving, and appears to move in a more random fashion.

It is fairly obvious that the person waving for the cameras has now been replaced by a "scarecrow". The actor who convinced us by waving has since ridden the last elevator out before the building comes down.

This 2 act play was designed to give us "snuff film" reality on 911, more than 6 months in advance.

Another example of a 911 "death" turning out to be another illusion, a well planned fake. So what if she pointed out there were no raging infernos, her main purpose was to portray death for the 911 production cameras.

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**The Surgeon** · 7 Aug 2010 , 20:16 PM

#1 Notice the whiteness of her pants...

To reach the opening, she came through a scene of utter devastation -- with ash and soot everywhere.

Her pants should show gray and black smudges, marks and discoloring.

#2 Her waving motion is from side to side -- most people wave overhand to draw attention. Also, the motion is very repetitive -- not typical of someone under extreme stress.

#3 In the last video she seems to be on fire. When she sways forwards and backwards, the fire corona moves with her. Not possible for her to be on fire and standing. Watch the video closely several times.

#4 How did she get to the opening? I can understand the drive to move towards and opening and fresh air. But, the impact zone was a jumbled disaster full of debris; with extreme hots spots and fires. How did she get to the opening? Same question for the other individuals shown in similar photos and videos.

**Rings of Saturn** · 8 Aug 2010 , 00:12 AM

The obit- EXIF file thing i can buy...but not that this is a dummy or ANYONE hoaxing inside that building....no damn way. Who in their right mind would be trying to navigate through twisted steel and shit to pull off a haox? Not even the most saviest of CIA spooks....no way.

Not buying that the jumpers were fakes either. Planes crashed...fires erupted...smoke filled places and people freaked and jumped. Too much OVER-thinking going on in this dept....not buying it for a second...

**do2read** · 8 Aug 2010 , 00:17 AM

So, let me get this straight.

You buy that the Exif/IPTC data in her Memorial photograph proves her death was planned 6 months earlier, but you don't believe she's fake, part of the operation.

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**Rings of Saturn** · 8 Aug 2010 , 00:30 AM

Yep...

Again...how and why would someone be up there risking their life chucking off bodies or staging people waving etc etc. It's absurd....

How the hell did they navigate through the mess? And for what? How?

Crash a plane into a high rise and set it afire....people freak...people jump. No need to fake it..they WILL do it...

**do2read** · 8 Aug 2010 , 00:44 AM

It was simple.

It was all well planned, practiced (gelatin) set up long before.

It was all fake.

She's not dirty, she stands still while fully engulfed in flames, and if you look at the "mess" behind her, you really can't see any mess. The tangled, fiery mess of a building only exists in stories. For most of Ednas waving time, there is no fire, and barely even any smoke anywhere near her.

Beyond the facade, there really is NOTHING to see, because there is NOTHING there.

Edna was a hoax designed to make you believe there were people there, and I guess in your case, even when faced with overwhelming evidence to the contrary, it worked.

l

**Jack A. Lope** · 8 Aug 2010 , 02:57 AM

The photo was taken 6 months prior to 911. What's hard to believe about that? I don't know who the person was but to say she was a scarecrow is absurd if you ask me. There where people in the building and many of them died. Granted there seems to have been some fictitious made for TV profiles designed to elicit strong condemnation for the attackers but that doesn't necessarily mean these people didn't exist. Just somebody took license when writing there liefs story. This person may have been some one else entirely as I never really thought she looked all that much like Edna Criton but that's just my opinion.

Cheers
Jack

**2getherwestand** · 8 Aug 2010 , 03:59 AM

Wait a second Jack,i'm trying to understand this.You might be willing to accept that the planes were faked but you have a problem accepting the fact that even the people were actors and fakes?

Overwhelming evidence is against your thought on this subject.As you pointed out,lame stream media planted pretty much everything we thought to be true at first.As time rolled on more and more of the truth is being exposed,including the fake passengers of the planes as well as occupants of the twins,especially as of late.C'mon,get real.

**Rings of Saturn** · 8 Aug 2010 , 09:01 AM

Alright...so we have fake victims, faked haoxed people and jumpers...and a 3,000 person list of total deaths...

Let's look at the total deaths; 3,000

Lets deduct 500 for easy math that were Pent and flight victims....this we can almost prove with the obits-EXIF pre-created files.

We do know people died on the ground from falling shit/debris/etc etc....

Lets take off another 500 for that and emergency personel....

We still have 2,000 people reportedly dead....

Now, every eyar...thousands of families gather for the dead...are they actors?

Becuase we have ONE possible actor we can track...are we saying that the rest of the people who claim their loved ones died are actors? What about the victims compensation fund?

What exactly are you surmising? Who died and who didnt? What was faked and what wasnt?

**The Surgeon** · 8 Aug 2010 , 16:56 PM

Rings of Saturn wrote:

Quote:

Yep...

Again...how and why would someone be up there risking their life chucking off bodies or staging people waving etc etc. It's absurd....

How the hell did they navigate through the mess? And for what? How?

Crash a plane into a high rise and set it afire....people freak...people jump. No need to fake it..they WILL do it...

Quote:

ecuase we have ONE possible actor we can track...are we saying that the rest of the people who claim their loved ones died are actors? What about the victims compensation fund?

What exactly are you surmising? Who died and who didnt? What was faked and what wasnt?

As usual, I agree with your observations. A few replies concerning your comments:

• Why risk their lives? People risk their lives for things they believe in all the time. Even American soldiers in some back of nowhere village in Afghanistan that has nothing to do with them. Some do it for money. Some do it for kicks. People are too complex and varied in their motives to determine the WHY -- unless you know who that person is. Better to focus on the WHAT, unless you know the WHO.

• How did they navigate through that mess? Good question. It was an extremely dangerous area. That is a key point.

• People will jump. Suicide is a means to control your fate. That's why jumpers at fires jump -- they die on their terms. Some of the jumpers examined really appear to be fakes. Where they all fakes? I hope so, but there could have been some real jumpers (RIP).

• We know that many of the passengers appear to be fakes; and that some of the WTC victims appear to be fakes. Pentagon we don't know, yet. So, some of the victims are fake -- but, I'm fully convinced there were real victims. The question is what %.

• What was faked and what wasn't? Another good question. The more we go down the rabbit hole of 9/11, the more faked events we find. I found THREE today: 1) Naudet video: Chief Pfeiffer's jacket donated to the Smithsonian musem -- he wore a different fireman's jacket that the one donated ..., 2) Michael Chertoff -- participated in the investigation / reporting of the faked Barbara Olson phone calls, and 3) Photographer John Labrioloa, who took +100 photos that day, many from inside WTC 1 -- his statement to the Smithsonian doesn't match the time of a photo he took of the WTC 1 lobby. THREE FAKES found in one day. Yesterday, it was TWO FAKES found.

8 Aug 2010 , 00:44 AM	#6
do2read Moderator Join Date: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 1,912 Threads: 92 Thanked 4,769 Times in 1,315 Posts	It was simple. It was all well planned, practiced (gelatin) set up long before. It was all fake. She's not dirty, she stands still while fully engulfed in flames, and if you look at the "mess" behind her, you really can't see any mess. The tangled, fiery mess of a building only exists in stories. For most of Ednas waving time, there is no fire, and barely even any smoke anywhere near her. Beyond the facade, there really is NOTHING to see, because there is NOTHING there. Edna was a hoax designed to make you believe there were people there, and I guess in your case, even when faced with overwhelming evidence to the contrary, it worked. l __________________ "Don't worry about it - Americans don't read." Allan Dulles ...

8 Aug 2010 , 02:57 AM	#7
Jack A. Lope Moderator Join Date: 9 Sep 2006 Location: I'm realy not here, what you see is a hologram. Posts: 1,228 Threads: 176 Thanked 210 Times in 107 Posts	The photo was taken 6 months prior to 911. What's hard to believe about that? I don't know who the person was but to say she was a scarecrow is absurd if you ask me. There where people in the building and many of them died. Granted there seems to have been some fictitious made for TV profiles designed to elicit strong condemnation for the attackers but that doesn't necessarily mean these people didn't exist. Just somebody took license when writing there liefs story. This person may have been some one else entirely as I never really thought she looked all that much like Edna Criton but that's just my opinion. Cheers Jack __________________ The green crusaders of the global warming community want to put a moratorium on the very gas responsible for making the world green. They say the debate is over. That may be the only thing they are right about

8 Aug 2010 , 03:59 AM	#8
2getherwestand Moderator Join Date: 20 Apr 2007 Location: no.california Posts: 3,272 Threads: 1466 Thanked 3,898 Times in 1,508 Posts	A Little Clarification Please! Wait a second Jack,i'm trying to understand this.You might be willing to accept that the planes were faked but you have a problem accepting the fact that even the people were actors and fakes?Overwhelming evidence is against your thought on this subject.As you pointed out,lame stream media planted pretty much everything we thought to be true at first.As time rolled on more and more of the truth is being exposed,including the fake passengers of the planes as well as occupants of the twins,especially as of late.C'mon,get real. __________________ Strong and peaceful, wise and brave Fighting the fight for the whole world to save.We the People will ceaselessly strive To keep our great Revolution alive. Defeat the one world order 2getherwestand

7 Aug 2010 , 20:16 PM	#2
The Surgeon Moderator Join Date: 8 Sep 2004 Location: The Cancer Ward Posts: 1,291 Threads: 165 Thanked 1,669 Times in 464 Posts	#1 Notice the whiteness of her pants... To reach the opening, she came through a scene of utter devastation -- with ash and soot everywhere. Her pants should show gray and black smudges, marks and discoloring. #2 Her waving motion is from side to side -- most people wave overhand to draw attention. Also, the motion is very repetitive -- not typical of someone under extreme stress. #3 In the last video she seems to be on fire. When she sways forwards and backwards, the fire corona moves with her. Not possible for her to be on fire and standing. Watch the video closely several times. #4 How did she get to the opening? I can understand the drive to move towards and opening and fresh air. But, the impact zone was a jumbled disaster full of debris; with extreme hots spots and fires. How did she get to the opening? Same question for the other individuals shown in similar photos and videos. __________________ "...it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority to set bush fires in people's minds" Samuel Adams Last edited by The Surgeon; 8 Aug 2010 at 07:46 AM.

8 Aug 2010 , 00:12 AM	#3
Rings of Saturn Academic Join Date: 9 Oct 2007 Posts: 900 Threads: 104 Thanked 221 Times in 114 Posts	The obit- EXIF file thing i can buy...but not that this is a dummy or ANYONE hoaxing inside that building....no damn way. Who in their right mind would be trying to navigate through twisted steel and shit to pull off a haox? Not even the most saviest of CIA spooks....no way. Not buying that the jumpers were fakes either. Planes crashed...fires erupted...smoke filled places and people freaked and jumped. Too much OVER-thinking going on in this dept....not buying it for a second...

8 Aug 2010 , 00:17 AM	#4
do2read Moderator Join Date: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 1,912 Threads: 92 Thanked 4,769 Times in 1,315 Posts	So, let me get this straight. You buy that the Exif/IPTC data in her Memorial photograph proves her death was planned 6 months earlier, but you don't believe she's fake, part of the operation. l __________________ "Don't worry about it - Americans don't read." Allan Dulles ...

8 Aug 2010 , 00:30 AM	#5
Rings of Saturn Academic Join Date: 9 Oct 2007 Posts: 900 Threads: 104 Thanked 221 Times in 114 Posts	Yep... Again...how and why would someone be up there risking their life chucking off bodies or staging people waving etc etc. It's absurd.... How the hell did they navigate through the mess? And for what? How? Crash a plane into a high rise and set it afire....people freak...people jump. No need to fake it..they WILL do it...

8 Aug 2010 , 09:01 AM	#9
Rings of Saturn Academic Join Date: 9 Oct 2007 Posts: 900 Threads: 104 Thanked 221 Times in 114 Posts	Alright...so we have fake victims, faked haoxed people and jumpers...and a 3,000 person list of total deaths... Let's look at the total deaths; 3,000 Lets deduct 500 for easy math that were Pent and flight victims....this we can almost prove with the obits-EXIF pre-created files. We do know people died on the ground from falling shit/debris/etc etc.... Lets take off another 500 for that and emergency personel.... We still have 2,000 people reportedly dead.... Now, every eyar...thousands of families gather for the dead...are they actors? Becuase we have ONE possible actor we can track...are we saying that the rest of the people who claim their loved ones died are actors? What about the victims compensation fund? What exactly are you surmising? Who died and who didnt? What was faked and what wasnt?