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Old 02-12-2008, 21:54
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Arrow The Debunkers & Critics of the 911 Truth Movement

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What has become of the "Truth Movement" leaders?


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Main 9/11 Links Page “For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it might cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know.. it -- now.” Excerpt from Patrick Henry’s “Give me liberty or give me death” speech, misquoted by Steven E. Jones in “Answers to Questions and Objections




Conspiracists, the evidence is before you, as it has been for years. Arguments from incredulity will never bolster your claims. You have a choice to make. You can draw conclusions by rationally reviewing all the available evidence, or you can continue making baseless, irresponsible, cruel accusations.
Which will it be?

Won’t it feel good to once again show respect for the people who would enter the maw of hell to save you? Do they deserve anything less?

Consider this: if you were falsely accused of a serious crime, wouldn’t you insist that rumor, innuendo, and pandering to fear be rejected as evidence against you?

If so, then hold yourselves to that standard and reject the fear-mongering and falsehoods of Alex Jones, Les Jamieson, Loose Change, Steven Jones, and others who disdain standards of evidence, expertise, and rational thought.

These “Truth Movement” leaders have become what they say they are fighting against: people who lie for political reasons.

– Mark Roberts
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FDNY Fatalities 9/11/01




NYPD Fatalities 9/11/01




Below: Top 2 rows: Port Authority Police fatalities 9/11/01. Bottom rows: Port Authority civilian fatalities.






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Old 07-13-2008, 08:47
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i dont get it, how are the makers of loose change liars?
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Old 07-13-2008, 09:41
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Its a statement made by Mark Roberts, a debunker, a common claim by debunkers to make those in the truth movement look bad - saying that by questioning 9/11 we are disrespecting those who gave their lives on 9/11 to save others...
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Old 07-13-2008, 11:26
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if thats all they've got - ridiculous.
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Why exactly was this posted Phil?


PS - Roberts is a dick and has a huge ego, he once told this to a radio show host:
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It's possible that I know more about the events of 9/11 than anyone in the world.
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Consider this: if you were falsely accused of a serious crime, wouldn’t you insist that rumor, innuendo, and pandering to fear be rejected as evidence against you?



if so , would you do anything in your power to seek for the truth ? if B admin was innocent would they have done EVERYTHIN to see what happened , why and who did it? just to show for your own people you are not hiding /lying .....
sorry pal( this roberts genius) your admin HAS done the excact opposite . either they are even more stupid one can think or then they are not innocent .
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Its a statement made by Mark Roberts, a debunker, a common claim by debunkers to make those in the truth movement look bad - saying that by questioning 9/11 we are disrespecting those who gave their lives on 9/11 to save others...

The simple FACT is that ALL your conspiracy belief IS disrespectful, contemptuous and sacrilegious to their LOSSES ...

Despite difficult, and ardous conditions ... First Responders ... even off-duty and retired turned up for duty ... and coped with horror, shock, death, injury and equipment damage or failure to themselves to assist others.

They went through Hell that day ... yet still as a GROUP do not question the official versions of the collapse of the Towers ...

AND by "questioning" their experiences and testimony you ARE dishonouring them ...

Surely THEY as a body of witnesses and participants would have a HUGE and CREDIBLE voice to question the events of 9/11.

Yet they choose not to ... WHY ???

Perchance it is because there was NO CONSPIRACY !!!

THEY WERE THERE ... YOU WEREN'T ... !!!

SO WHAT RIGHT DO YOU HAVE TO DISBELIEVE THEIR AUTHORITY ???

There are FULL and UNEDITED audio and video eye-witness accounts freely and easily accessable to all ...

So at the very LEAST do these brave men and women ... who willingly risked their own lives to assist others ... the HONOUR of letting their voices be heard FULLY ...

And not just rely on the heavily edited, out of context, mis-quoted examples of the proponents of conspiracy.

http://cms.firehouse.com/content/sec...p?sectionId=41

http://www.firehouse.com/terrorist/911/magazine/gz/
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The simple FACT is that ALL your conspiracy belief IS disrespectful, contemptuous and sacrilegious to their LOSSES ...

Despite difficult, and ardous conditions ... First Responders ... even off-duty and retired turned up for duty ... and coped with horror, shock, death, injury and equipment damage or failure to themselves to assist others.

They went through Hell that day ... yet still as a GROUP do not question the official versions of the collapse of the Towers ...

AND by "questioning" their experiences and testimony you ARE dishonouring them ...

Surely THEY as a body of witnesses and participants would have a HUGE and CREDIBLE voice to question the events of 9/11.

Yet they choose not to ... WHY ???

Perchance it is because there was NO CONSPIRACY !!!

THEY WERE THERE ... YOU WEREN'T ... !!!

SO WHAT RIGHT DO YOU HAVE TO DISBELIEVE THEIR AUTHORITY ???

There are FULL and UNEDITED audio and video eye-witness accounts freely and easily accessable to all ...

So at the very LEAST do these brave men and women ... who willingly risked their own lives to assist others ... the HONOUR of letting their voices be heard FULLY ...

And not just rely on the heavily edited, out of context, mis-quoted examples of the proponents of conspiracy.

http://cms.firehouse.com/content/sec...p?sectionId=41

http://www.firehouse.com/terrorist/911/magazine/gz/

I suggest YOU do some research on the Jersey Girls and exactly how the 9/11 commission report came to be.

Consider this a warning.
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Default Blueguesser must have learned everything he knows from Fox news!

Try and convince the following organizations what kind of bullshit you are trying to push Blueguesser.http://mp911truth.org/
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And this one!http://firefightersfor911truth.org/
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