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This is some outstanding research Zolta! Whats interesting is how the pieces all fit nicely together once one has enough facts and data which are reliable. The fact that these "starving artists" received huge amounts of money for lost art, which was alleged to have been lost at the World Trade Center is disturbing in itself.

Is this correct Zolta? Did I understand that correctly? That the artists who "lost art" were reimbursed for this art which was alleged to have been at WTC on 9/11?

I also have issues with the floor plan that we are able to see on the 91st floor of the North Tower. (WTC 1) There is apparently nospace leftover for the 4 other companies that were also alleged to have been there on 9/11, and in particular, where is the American Bureau of Shipping at? And where is George Sleighs desk which the wing of the plane crashed over?

How could any of this have happened when the lease for the LMCC, the Lower Manhattan Cultural Council expired in 1999? Was security so lax at WTC that people who had expired leases could still openly use their space? I think we all know this to not be the case.

And lastly, the 91st floor of the North Tower (WTC 1) appears to have been jumper central. This appears to be where nearly every jumper jumped from, with few exceptions.



Take a good look at the people in the buildings. And do so from video rather then stills. Ask yourself why you don't see anyone with their hands up to their mouths coughing their brains out or chugging for air? This is noticeably absent from any video footage I have observed so far. How was the E-Team stunt even able to be pulled off? In the pictures they have in the E Team pdf, I observe no less then 3 different kinds of window treatments present in those floors.

This is a great first post Zolta! Great research! Thanks for taking the initiative!

cheers-
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It appears to me by counting down from the top, the E-Team's 127 illuminated windows (including the blacked out border floors) are between the 88th and the 94th floor of the North Tower.

There were 23 tenants with current leases on these floors. While the stunt was only on one side of the building, if the tenants were real, this would have been difficult to coordinate, and would have included the cooperation of the majority of those 23 tenants.

If there were real companies on those floors, they were mainly "secure" operations, with proprietary functions and premises which wouldn't be open to just anyone for any reason.





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That Gelatin B was a "Performing" Art group had escaped my attention in all the other posts to do with them. They were artists, I knew, but performing artists puts a whole new spin on things.

The Performing Arts include drama, music, dance, and art in various media.

This could be the answer to the question "How come some of their drawings were so crude". Not all of them were necessarily artists of the 'painting' kind. This would include set design for theater. Lighting, in other words, the whole kit-and-kaboodle.

And another thing, no college aged artist in residence would put their whole life's work in storage at the WTC. What kind of nonsense is that? Not to mention the fact that most art appreciates after death--and these were college students still learning their craft. And there is just no way they would 'store' it there. They would have taken their pieces.

UNLESS

They had done the work on a sub-contract basis. Then it would have stayed there. Who contracted them? That contractor would have been the one to enjoy the insurance payout. And it is not unheard of to do things as a student on a contract--to help pay tuition for instance, or put on ha play or musical as a fundraiser for the school sort of thing. Or even an apprenticeship (in which the employer would again be the one claiming the insurance settlement?)

I am now curios as to where their funding came from and if they did fund raising or contract work And if anyone video taped their 'performances.'

Then again, perhaps I am just now beginning to catch up to you guys' train of thought and all this is already known

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Thinking back over what I've read, Gelitin got all photos/videos back that were taken back the onlookers either in the chopper or ground or hotel, that was part of the deal. Probably because it was -if you pardon the pun- so out there. I suppose too that it creates a bit of mystique about the whole thing -was it done, wasn't it. Could they have been confiscated for other reasons - don't know.

Regarding the E-Team all 60 people who had their photos taken,once again by a person in a helicopter, all could go back the next day and pick them up. I wonder if the E-Team had extra prints made


Insurance is another matter. Gelitin may had made a claim for their wooden balcony I suppose, unsure about the cardboard boxes

The E-Team used blinds, lights etc that were already there I think so there was no artistic pieces that I can think of - can you claim insurance for intellectual art - no matter how bad it is?

Regards and goodnight Clive

keithb

Definitely could have Clive. Operational security reasons.

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keithb

It is possible that this is the case though VZ - it can't be discounted absolutely.

Cheers - Keith