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Old 10 Oct 2011 , 05:19 AM   #1
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Fake Firefighter or Actor?

Fake Firefighter or Actor?

Thanks to Ahijab for posting this video and pointing out:
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Checkout this exhausted (Vietnam Vet?) in his sharp spotless uniform as he explains how hard he's been working on the clean up. Notice the exaggeration from the asian anchorwomen.



Name of supposed firefighter: Morel Gibbs (spelling of Morel correct?)

Ahijab is 100% correct that this firefighter is spotless. Notice the helmet and protective goggles. Not a speck of dust.

Summary:

News woman states he has been on duty since 11:00 AM.

Gibbs states that Tower 1 collapsed again while they were trying to rescue people, and then he went to the Tower 2 debris pile.

States it looks like Vietnam, implying that he is a Vietnam vet.

Last US ground combat soldiers left Vietnam in August 1972. That is 29 years before 9/11.

If Gibbs was one of the last soldiers out of Vietnam at the age of 18, then he would be 47 years old. He does not look more than mid-30s, at most.

Can anybody decipher the helmut? Does the #1 stand for station 1, engine company 1?

Thanks to vanity fair for this info:
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On the other hand, if your referring to the actual front piece, it goes as follows;
Engine Cos=Black Front Piece w/White nos.
Engine Off=White Front Piece w/Black nos.
Ladder cos=Red Front Piece w/white nos
Ladder Off=White Front Piece w/Red nos
Squad cos=Yellow Front Piece w/white nos
Squad Off=White Front Piece w/Yellow nos
Rescue cos=Blue Front Piece w/white nos
Rescue Off=White Front Piece w/Blue nos
Marine Cos=Green Front Piece w/white nos
Marine Off=White Front piece w/green nos
Haz-Mat co=Orange front piece w/white nos
Haz-Mat Off=White front piece w/orange nos
SOC member=Yellow/Black Helmet with Orange Front Piece
All Chief Officers=Gold Front Piece
http://letsrollforums.com/chief-he-r...8.html?t=26568
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Old 10 Oct 2011 , 06:32 AM   #2
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Re: Fake Firefighter or Actor?

The New York City Fire Department (FDNY) issues a black helmet to all ranks except those of Battalion Chief and up. These officers receive a white helmet. The FDNY uses the front shield of the helmet to distinguish both company number and the function of that company. The following colors denote function in the FDNY:
  • Black: Engine Company
  • Red : Ladder Company
  • Blue: Rescue and Hazardous Materials Company
  • Yellow: Squad Company
  • Green : Marine Units
  • Orange : Probationary Firefighter
And this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organiz...ire_Department


Field C.... 1 Unit on his helmet

He also seems to change his description of the devastation at around the 48sec mark.
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Old 10 Oct 2011 , 06:39 AM   #3
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Re: Fake Firefighter or Actor?

Yes,,,100% fake......,,,,,IranContraScumDid911 posted the same video ,on Sep 7, 2011............


Some more interesting stuff>>>
Tv reporter Jackie Hyland joined WPIX-TV as a General Assignment Reporter and Anchor in 2000[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Hyland

As the story goes,,,WPIX supposedly lost transmission after the "second" plane hit and caused this freeze up of the screen >>>>> below here>>>


From wiki :

On September 11, 2001, the transmitter facilities of WPIX as well as eight other New York City television stations and several radio stations were destroyed when two hijacked airplanes crashed into and destroyed the World Trade Center towers. The station's lead engineer, Steve Jacobson, was among those who were lost in the tragedy. WPIX's satellite feed froze on the last video frame received from the WTC mast, an image of the North Tower burning and the start of the impact of the South Tower; the image remained on the screen for much of the day until WPIX was able to set up alternate transmission facilities (the microwave relay for WPIX's satellite feed was also up there). Since then, WPIX has transmitted its signal from the Empire State Building.

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I think there is footage from WPIX in the Nist releases that might contradict this story....(needs confirmed or checked)

I ALSO remember these two anchors from another video,,where they are blatantly fabricating stuff up.

I will try to find the vid........

This looks like an in house studio dub..(fake),,,which would also explain his sparkling clean clothing,,hat,and goggles....

All four in this video are responsible for deception that day!!!
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Re: Fake Firefighter or Actor?

Also ,,if you stop the video at 3:12,,,her microphone says 9-11.....
There is a WB logo there,,,but at that position,,,it says it plain as day....

Someone get a screenshot!!

What a trip!!!
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Old 10 Oct 2011 , 07:06 AM   #5
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Re: Fake Firefighter or Actor?

Can anyone get a list of the people who worked at ground zero cleaning up?
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His helmet says he’s in the - Field Communications Unit (Field Com)
These guys don’t actually fight the fires though. As the name implies they direct operations from command centers and various vehicles. Here are photos of all the different vehicles used in that unit and there are no numbers assigned to any of them, but the number 1 on his helmet indicates he is part of the following Unit 1.
http://www.fdnytrucks.com/files/html/specialunits/fcom.htm

Here is more info on the fact that there really is a Unit 1 (and 2) FDNY Field Communications 2008 A Brief History Fire Bell Club of New York

Current Field Comm Apparatus:
Field Comm Unit 1 2001 Freightliner FL106 / ALF
Field Comm Unit 2 2002 Freightliner Sprinter / ALF (reserve unit)
Both are located at Engine 233 http://www.firebellclub.org/field_comm.html
Here is a PDF that gives some info on the Field Communications Unit (Field Com) which set up operations on 9/11 at the West Street ICP at approximately 9:15 a.m., in accordance with protocols. This unit was responsible for tracking the location and job assignment of all resources at the incident (e.g., which units responded to which alarms and which units were assigned to each tower). Field Com was also responsible for coordinating the
assignment of additional units to the incident with Dispatch, upon request by the Incident Commander. http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/pdf/mck...s_response.pdf

The FDNY Field Communications Unit was responsible for tracking the assignment of Fire units to different alarms, the release of units from the staging area to the incident area and unit locations at the incident. This unit worked next to the Incident Command Post and kept records on a magnetic command board, using small magnets placed on a diagram to indicate unit locations. This record was most likely inaccurate because many units went directly to the tower lobbies instead of their assigned staging areas. Field Com was destroyed at 9:59 a.m. when WTC 2 collapsed, and all unit assignment records were lost since the FDNY
Field Communications units cannot create a remote back up of deployment records. http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/pdf/mck_report/fire_operations_response.pdf

Among the special operations units committed were the Hazardous Materials unit (Hazmat), High Rise units, a Field Communications unit, (20) the Mobile Command
Center unit, all the Rescue units and six out of seven Squads.21 http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/pdf/mck_report/fire_operations_response.pdf

20 The Field Communications unit that was deployed and later destroyed was the Department’s spare; the primary vehicle was out of service for maintenance reasons. Normally only one unit is on duty at any one time.

As an aside I found this closed ebay auction - so we missed the photo of the shield.
FDNY Helmet Front - Field Comm1 Communications Van

Up for auction we have a nice fdny leather helmet front circa 1980 from the field communication unit 1 the field comm, was & is a large van, with all communications used at multiple alarms! Was staffed with a tl & a ff, to drive to all 2nd alarms, and above. Was staffed & housed at ladder 110/eng 207 on tillary street in brooklyn (old home of super pumper) neat unused front from the fdny.
Thanks for lookingat this neat peice of fdny history. This is a cairns & brother front from nj factory, so you know its legit!
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Re: Fake Firefighter or Actor?

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Also ,,if you stop the video at 3:12,,,her microphone says 9-11.....
There is a WB logo there,,,but at that position,,,it says it plain as day....

Someone get a screenshot!!

What a trip!!!

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Re: Fake Firefighter or Actor?

If he is an actor I vote he gets his equity card revoked, and that of his scriptwriter. Very poor quality.
I love the bit when he rubs his eyes on cue to reenforce his suffering. I would have thought his taking a warm shower and having a change of clothes and dust mask pre interview would have alleviated the eye sting.
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Re: Fake Firefighter or Actor?

He can't even pronounce "firefighter".

If there was a Field Communications unit deployed, why would they still have the famous radio problems?

Field Com 1 is housed with Brooklyn Engine 233. I don't see any losses for the engine or communications companies. They report losing the mobile unit however. Another case of a company that lost it's truck but no men.

Or was that fidrerfirters??? Communications?


Q: Why would a rank and file fireman be answering questions for the press instead of the Lieutenant, Captain, Chief, or Dept. Chief?

A: He wouldn't, all of those guys would have to pass up a moment in the spotlight for them to be talking to him.


He is with the kind of communications unit that coordinates communication between units at multiple alarm fires. He is not with the kind of communications unit that briefs the press.


Nice work!

I vote actor.




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This video is great. Just added it here Joe:

http://philjayhan.com/

http://philjayhan.com//category/9-11...t-actors-guild

Unbelievable. Great find! And am sure theres tons more yet to be found....

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