Terral

Greetings to All: Updated from 9:31

The Pentagon was first attacked at 9:31:39 AM in direct contradiction to the 911Commission Report (Page 27) the Arlington County After-Action Report (Page 200) and the Official Gov't/CNN Timelines (here). One primary objective of the ongoing FBI/DoDCounterIntelligence/ DisinformationCampaign is to create the delusion that the Pentagon was first attacked at 9:38 AM (their lie), when the Official FAA Timeline clearly says the Pentagon was first struck by an aircraft at 0932 AM. A full explanation of the ‘two attacks’ on the Pentagon is presented here, as the topic of this debate is focused solely upon the 9:32 AM ‘time’ of the first explosion.



We know the ‘first’ Pentagon explosion took place at precisely 9:31:39 AM, because that marks the exact time the Quartermaster-calibrated Navy Clock stopped inside the Pentagon. We also know this explosion was massive, because even the Army Clock (on left) outside the Pentagon in the Heliport Building stopped at nearly the same time. Senor Navy Journalist Barbara Honegger focuses much attention upon this 9:32 AM first explosion in her famous paper here, even if she has drawn the wrong conclusions about what actually exploded to begin the 60-hour series of events. Since Barbara’s 9:32 AM First Explosion paper was published, other corroborating evidence has surfaced pointing directly to a 9:32 AM First Explosion that is undeniable and proves beyond all doubt that the Pentagon was first attacked about six minutes ‘before’ the Official FBI-produced Flight Data Recorder evidence places AA77 in Pentagon airspace. In short, every word of Jim Ritter’s National Transportation Safety Board Report is based upon a series of FBI-fabricated LIES. The inside-job bad guys have FAR too much of their Cover Story based upon the 9:38 AM first explosion, as the times of 9:31 AM and 9:32 AM do not even appear in the ACAAR even one time. You are now looking at the primary body of evidence that blows the Official Cover Story out of the water, which no planted DoD counterintelligence cronie can even begin to refute.



The DoubleTree Hotel Security Tape data was released in 2006 showing definite signs of tampering. Look through the frames very carefully to realize the time jumps from 9:34 back to 9:32 (picture) at the very end, which is over five minutes ‘before’ the government says Flight 77 was even in Pentagon airspace ‘and’ which agrees 100 percent with the original FAA Timeline. Foreign Minister Per Stig Moller was in Washington and reported seeing “a big cloud of fire and smoke from the Pentagon at circa 9:32” (link), which Barbara Honegger highlights in her paper above. A very important fact is that Barbara establishes that only ‘inside-the-building fires’ resulted from the 9:31:39 AM attack from what we now know was a DoD self-inflicted wound from the A-3 launched missile on a 45-degree angle from the south. Many people believe the DoD planted bombs in this Column Line (CL) 14 location to initiate these attacks, because they have yet to realize a missile attack even took place.



Alberto Gonzales stated very clearly that “The Pentagon was attacked at 9:32” (link) in a speech given at the Naval Postgraduate School. The Houston Chronicle established the first explosion attack time to be 9:30 AM in the original attack, which again corresponds closely to the real FAA Timeline from the original sources of their reports. The reason we have these discrepancies is because the DoD missile ‘and’ their painted-up A-3 were supposed to strike CL 9 through CL 15 simultaneously and bring the E-Ring roof down at 9:32 AM, but the remote-control operator momentarily lost control and altitude; which caused the five light poles to be knocked down and potentially ruin the entire operation. This means none of the bad guys had ‘time’ to control all of the reporting of the ‘first’ 9:31:39 AM explosion, before the A-3 could make the wide turn to the north and strike the West Wedge wall just five minutes later at 9:36:27 AM (bottom picture).



Many DoD inside-job disinformation cronies (CIT = real retards = their buddies = crying babies .) work overtime discrediting the testimony of Lloyd England (a good guy) and his corroborating “Lamp Pole” witnesses, because he is among the very few Pentagon Survivors that ‘can’ establish the 9:32 AM First Explosion part of a ‘real’ Pentagon Timeline. Lloyd’s taxi was struck at 9:31:39 AM with the original missile strike, when the A-3 flew over the Pentagon roof to begin making the wide turn to the north very much out of his sight. Lloyd and his helper were removing Pole #1 from his windshield, when just 5 minutes after the original explosion they both heard the massive “BIG BOOM” (story) from the ‘second’ 9:36:27 AM A-3 strike that MANY believe is the ‘first’ explosion to this day. If you will take the time to read from Colonel Jonathan Fruendt’s Memoirs (here) starting on Page 73 (“It seemed to me . . .”), then you will clearly see these ‘two explosions,’ where the second one is Terry Cohen’s “Terrible Explosion” from the first news report video here.



When the Official Cover Story cronies and their cohorts begin rambling aimlessly about their 9:38 AM Jetliner crash (never happened), then be sure to ask them questions about the aircraft that hit the Pentagon at 9:32 AM. Then prepare yourself for a big blank stare for which they are not even prepared to offer a coherent reply. :0) Anyone attempting to solve this case without a real Pentagon Timeline and the correct 9:32 AM First Explosion time is not even paying attention and should be ignored for refusing to include ‘all’ the evidence in their so-called investigation.

GL,

Terral

Terral

Greetings to All:

What are the chances that this thread could go all the way down the Board and nobody have one argument against my Pentagon 9:32 AM First Explosion explanation? A look over at Page 2 shows only three threads without one reply and my two (Timeline Thread) are among the three. The other thread with a big fat goose egg (0) in the “Replies” column belongs to OmegaPoint (here) highlighting Barbara Honegger (Encyclopedia and Bio) and her famous “The Pentagon Attack Papers” (PDF link) that DoD/FBI/CIA Counterintelligence/Disinformation Ops would rather not talk about. :0)

Now, what are the chances that this same Opening Post (link) was posted on the Loose Change Pentagon Forum, so the CIT light pole banditos and the Loose Change Brats would also let this same post go all the way down to the bottom of Page 1 and Page 2 and Page 3, to the back page, without a solitary single reply? Here is the deal in a nutshell:

These Boards have been crawling with DoD Counterintelligence bad guys and they do EVERYTHING to avoid the topic of ‘when’ the ‘first explosion’ took place at the Pentagon and any reference at all to 9:31 AM and 9:32 AM, as all reference to these two times were removed from the sanitized Arlington County After-Action Report (Page 200) like the word “explosions” was also removed from the document. None of the inside-job bad guys running around these so-called 911Truth Boards has the permission from his handler to engage in any 9:31 AM or 9:32 AM “First Explosion” Pentagon deliberations, because they would be back peddling towards reassignment faster than you can say “spit.” :0)

If anyone can find any contradictions in any of my Opening Posts and in any of my Pentagon 911Truth explanations, then please ‘quote >>’ that and make your case for something else using whatever you really call credible evidence. Good luck, because I cannot find any either. However, if all you can do is throw stones at me for having the audacity to present my views, as I see them, then please do us all a favor and let the thread return to the archives without the petty bickering and nonsense. Thanks in advance,

GL,

Terral

Terral

Hi guys:

I updated this OP with links from an updated version of this thesis paper here named 9:31. It would be nice if somebody would try to offer a reasonable rebuttal to my "Two Attack" Pentagon Explanation. To me this seems the only answer that matches all the evidence without creating a single contradiction.

Good luck in the debate,

Terral

2brnot2b

Not sure where my post disappeared to but here goes again.
In April Gallup's suit against Rumsfield she only notes one explosion at 9:32
http://letsrollforums.com/april-gall...t=April+Gallup

Can you put some light on this for me. I cannot believe that she would file a suit and not have heard 2 explosions.
Megan

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Terral

Hi 2brnot2b:

Thank you for writing.

First of all, I know April Gallop and have sat on the phone with her for some time discussing the details of what really happened at the Pentagon on 9/11. Unfortunately for us, she is a poor witness for what transpired over the course of the initial timeframe, because she was knocked unconscious and cannot tell you to this day how long she remained that way. BTW, I answer April Gallop questions in my blog entry here, and my letter to her attorney (Bill Veale = I know him too) is here, if anybody is interested. Next, April Gallop confirms in the RawStory.com interview (like in our conversation) that she heard ‘two loud explosions.’

RawStory.com

Now do you see the problem with using April Gallop testimony for a real Pentagon Timeline (my thread)? The fact that we have ‘two’ attacks on the Pentagon is easy to verify by using the accounts of Lloyd England the famous taxi cab driver (story). Lloyd’s taxi cab was struck by Pole #1 (pic) during the 9:31 AM Missile Strike that injured April Gallop and her son (my blog). Lloyd stops the taxi after turning the wheel sharply to his right (pic). Remember that the Pentagon has ONLY “inside-the-building fires” (Barbara Honegger’s paper = upper pic) during these initial moments! This is perhaps the most important fact to be realized by everybody, because ONLY a single smoke plume (pic) rose up from the ‘inside-the-building fires’ for the first 4 minutes and 48 seconds ‘between’ these ‘two attacks.’ Lloyd jumps out of his taxi cab to see the light pole has harpooned his windshield like a javelin and his helper jumps out of the white van, hops over the central median, and helps the 69-year old man remove the pole ‘and’ (this is important too) without damaging the hood. :0) HOWEVER (this is the very important part), Lloyd has just removed the light pole and BAMMMM!!!! This marks the moment (exactly 9:36:27 AM) when the DoD flying BOMB returned and struck the Column Line (CL) 11-15 location (pic = story) to create the “BIG BOOM” (Liberty story again) that sees Lloyd almost killed by the same light pole in just under 5 minutes. :0)




Look at the picture and tell me if this looks like ONLY 'inside-the-building fires' to you! :0) No! The situation 'now' (9:36:27+) shows a raging fire burning hundreds of feet up and down the E-ring wall. We have ‘two explosions’ right here with Lloyd’s story in the initial light pole incident (9:31) and the subsequent ‘big boom’ (9:36), which is the reason that so many DoD Counterintelligence Disinformation Ops (like CIT = Craig and Aldo) work every day to discredit his testimony. If you go back to the very first video in the OP of my “What Really Happened” thread (here), then you see Terry Cohen testifying to a ‘terrible explosion’ taking place ‘after’ the initial attack, even if she also has lost her sense of ‘time’ and thinks this takes place 15 minutes later . . .

http://video.google.nl/videoplay?doc...51276150910098

GL,

Terral

Pokerflat

Good scrutiny...


Tho it is so obvious that the whole thing is a hoax. Ive known for years that the official story of 911 is a lie and a mandated plot by the US government. All truth seekers ought to know this by now, i don´t really see the point of digging more into a lie that is already so obvious.."no plane hit the pentagon, period.

What can we really do about it ? Other than to keep exposing the truth of the coverup.

I see a lot of people that is too caught up on the 911 matter, forgetting maybe what is really going on. I am not saying i am right, it is purely an opinion.

Can we change what the elite have already decided ? example, the commission report.. Will we , and the victims ever get or see a fair trial ? What have the truth movement really achieved "officially" rather than
exposing the truth, starting debates and helping the victims with answers.
(And that was not meant negatively)

We have already found out the truth, so what can really be done besides that. To be honest, I think the elite want us to keep us in and around that endless road that leads us to tons of clues, questions and new evidence, all wrapped in a ball that never seem to score big officially"

What about the things that are going on over our heads and in the heavens these days ?

Hmm ?

sorry for my bad grammar...

2brnot2b

you are right Terral;
I have brain farts and forget alot of detail, glad that there is someone to pick up the pieces when I fall.

We were talking in chat yesterday about why some of the people in military do not take these rogue thugs into custody. The amount of fear and unknowing is amazing to me.

Severe apathy served by fear!
Megan

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Terral

Hi Pokerflat:
You are not paying attention, Poker, because the retrofitted DoD Jet (pic) struck the Pentagon between Column Line (CL) 11 and CL 15 (lower left) at exactly 9:36:27 AM using the “North of Citgo” flight path (in blue). Michael Kelly and Don Wright saw the smaller Jet hit the Pentagon in living color:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD0qpbwHCYI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=schV0rKCRwA

The reason real 911Truthers dig into the DoD/FBI/CIA Cover Story LIE is because we are here to present and defend ‘the’ 911Truth. Period. The 911Truth says ‘exactly’ what all the evidence says and without creating a single contradiction. If your Pentagon explanation does not match the evidence, then keep on digging. :0)

The real 911Truth Movement is about waking We The People up one American at a time until we are in the majority. The frontline of the battle right now is between Bill Veale (Centerfor911Justice) and April Gallop (Pentagon victim) in their lawsuit against Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and the many John Doe's working with them (Rawstory.com = my blog entry). My letter to Bill Veale about modifying the claims of the lawsuit is here and we have been having communications and he has adjusted the claims accordingly. However, the probability meter on my Inside-job Bad Guy Model says this entire lawsuit may very well be a deliberate DoD Op hoax and merely a fact-finding op for the inside-job bad guys themselves. The reason we keep on digging is because the same people who murdered JFK and the same people who pulled off 9/11 are the same bad guys currently orchestrating the U.S./Global Economic Implosion/Collapse (owners of the FED = Chapter 3)! This means that We The People have a limited amount of ‘time’ to backtrack and solve these related 9/11 Inside-job attacks, OR become enslaved/destroyed when the current Economic Implosion Inside Job transitions from cold to hot in the very near future.

My Inside-job Bad Guy Model continues to predict one of these (pic) over the northeastern quadrant of Oakland California (map =depending upon wind conditions on that day) in a second 9/11-like attack for which the DoD/Blackwater Ops are currently devising their Cover Story. A large component of the DoD field ops began transitioning out of the 9/11 Inside-job Counterintelligence/Disinformation Campaign about a year ago in preparation for this second leg of the inside-job operation which will definitely lead to another attack and place these United States under Martial Law (story and story). That is the very reason that you see our U.S. military preparing to join forces with our local and state police (story and story = civil disturbance planning/objectives story) when the current panic is transformed into pandemonium (FEMA camps) later this year.

We disagree. Take a good look around to realize these 9/11 Topics are barely moving, because the DoD/Blackwater/Rogue Element Counterintelligence Disinformation Campaign is working according to Plan. Look at this Cassiopaea.org Pentagon Forum Board (here) to realize nobody has bumped a thread since January 11, 2009 and that was Craig from CIT running diversion for the DoD. Two threads on the 911Movement.org Board (here = Killtown DoD Op) have moved since Feb. 7, 2009 and only five threads have moved since Feb 22 on the Loose Change Pentagon Board (here) dominated again by the CIT retards. What I see everywhere is a definite reduction in 911Truth discussion and deliberation, because the vast majority of We The People have purchased the Cover Story LIE and remain sound asleep . . .

If the April Gallop Lawsuit turns out to be legitimate (which I doubt = less than 25 percent probability), then the Centerfor911Justice will obtain discovery authority and we can begin putting a solid case together for a class action lawsuit with teeth. The best opportunity for breaking these 9/11 cases wide open remains to be with the 9:31-9:32 AM First Explosion (my PP thread) that has never been investigated in the first place.


There is a ‘real’ 911Truth Movement actually standing for ‘the’ 911Truth and pushing others to wake-the-hell-up ‘and’ there is a DoD/CIA/FBI/Blackwater Rogue Element ‘fake’ 911Truth Movement hiding in plain sight manipulating ‘both’ sides of the debates to their ‘smokescreen’ advantage. All the bad guys will end up in the lake of fire (Rev. 21:8 = every damned one of them), but so far they are getting away with murder right now on planet earth.

We agree. The lesson here is to stand for ‘the’ 911Truth and wake as many people up as possible and allow the chips to fall where they may. If America is worthy of being enslaved and destroyed by these bad guys from within our own borders, then that is the fate We The People deserve for being so stupid in the first place. Think about it: Americans allowed the illegal FED to siphon off their wealth for almost 100 years and have allowed people like Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld and their murdering thugs to remain in power for eight long years, so anybody that stupid is worthy of whatever these bad guys have up their sleeve . . .


Every hair on every inside-job bad guy head is numbered like the days they have to strut around and deceive people on this earth. Scripture teaches that “desolations are determined” (Daniel 9:26), so the bad guys have an allotted amount of time to carry out their desolations until BAMMM and destruction is upon them all. :0)

The question is: How many people will be suckered in by their trickery to become Disinfo Cronies worthy of their same fate . . .

We shall see,

GL,

Terral

Pokerflat

Terral

very nice post... What i ment was that there was no Boeing that hit the pentagon
Thank you for pointing out my questions..

and i agree on absolutely all...

Keep up your great work.. .