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Old 08-16-2004, 18:33
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Take a peek at this plane: The bottoms look quite similar to the plane that hit the second tower..

http://www.airforce-technology.com/p...35/kc1351.html

Air Force KC-135 Stratotanker

<crosses her fingers this works>

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Hey Gabriella,

Ya, thats a tanker, based on the older 4 engine, 707 design. That bulge showing is one of the inside engines....



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Old 08-16-2004, 18:49
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If so, who better than the president of Strategic Jet, one Dan Cretsinger, working with this Walker the 3rd fellow (another relative of Bush?), who was the CEO of Aviation General AND director of Kuwait-American AND one time CEO of that security company, Securacom/Stratesec,
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0204-06.htm
which Bush's brother was on the board of 'til 2000 that handled the security at the WTC (full knowledge of the building) - who better than him and Strategic Jet and Walker - to seek out and find a low profile, unaccounted for Boeing to undergo the transformation??? If it in fact had no passenger windows, then that would make it a cargo plane.

Sure it may be somewhat speculative, but the interconnections are all there...
That's very plausable. Strategic Jet only operated between 1998-2002, and 767 cargo planes are all over the world in fleets for companies like DHL and Fed-Ex. I wish I could find some transaction records for Strategic Jet showing what kinds of aircraft they've bought/sold...I'm sure we'd find a few 767's on that list.
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Old 08-16-2004, 19:11
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Bush Sr., Cheney, and Bush Jr are the common thread here ie: Kuwait and Gulf Wars one and two.

Just need to tighten up the connecting chain links a bit more is all...

Developing...
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Old 08-16-2004, 22:45
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Grrrr.. they say 3 times is a charm so here goes (this is my 3rd attempt to make this post)

Phil,

I first went to http://www.911truth.org and somehow found Break for News with Fintan Dunne!!! Then I found you!! I could not stop listening! http://www.breakfornews.com Your interviews with Fintan Dunne are AWESOME!!

For months I have been following the Sibel Edmonds saga there to begin with. Interestingly, her CNN interview on Paula Zahn now was originally scheduled for Thurs night 8/12/04, but due to Gov. McGreevy's resignation it was rescheduled for Friday. But, by Friday they were covering the hurricane. The CNN website info was deleted, & no mention of a new interview with Sibel has been mentioned. Amazing how John Ashcroft has retroactively "Gagged the ENTIRE United States Congress" by instituting a RARELY used "State Secrets" law to keep her silenced. Is Mr. Bush really afraid we'll find out how INEPT his and others responses were that day? Or, was foreknowledge the reason that he & many of his Principles were able to calmly sit there, and leisurely get into place that day?

I have forwarded her information to Senator Mark Dayton, from Minnesota, who on 7/30/04 gave a Blistering to both the Chair & Co-Chair of the 9-11 Comission during that hearing. He made reference to how in the world could our nation be unprotected for over an hour? He wants what we want, accountability & a REAL explanation of what went so TERRIBLY WRONG that day. (Available at C-SPAN, his section starts at approx. 1:58:00 into the streaming video)

As they say there are no coincidences, and pictures don't lie.

Here are the facts as I see them:

1. The plane that flew into the 2nd Tower was NOT Flight 175, and something OBVIOUSLY shoots out a split second prior to the impact of the nose of the plane.
There are NO windows
on that plane, and extra items on the bottom. (It is mentioned btw in the Northwoods Plan from back in 1962 that it would only take a few months to prepare (paint) a plane to use as a "SWITCH." (I have a copy of the Northwoods Plan in Adobe Acrobat form, it is also available as declassified online) The NW plans are eerily similar, but 9-11 was much more sophisticated.

2. Firemen interviewed on camera shortly after the towers came down said we saw & heard secondary explosions, and described them as a Boom, Boom, Boom sound, just like there were detonators.

3. Structurally neither tower would have come down based upon the 44 Center STEEL structural supports surrounded in concrete & asbestos within the building without some "OTHER" impetus.. And, if you look at the path of the second plane crash, it doesn't even hit the CENTER supports of the building, it hits on an angle, almost allowing the plane to exit. Building 7 came down in a "CONTROLLED FASHION" only a few hours later that day. Does it not take MANY days to WIRE a building for Demolition? Just the heat from the crashes themselves even adding the jet fuel, were NOT sufficient to create MOLTEN steel at those temperatures as we can saw. I have video of this as well, a perfect "demolition."

4. One of Bush's relatives just 'happened' to be in charge of security at the World Trade Center on that day.

5. The PNAC (Project for a New American Century) clearly stated that they needed a new "Pearl Harbor". Cheney, Wolfowitz, and others in the administration EMBRACED that philosophy.

6. War games were in progress on that day, & were scheduled for the entire week for Norad, actually I have found 3 references to war-games around that time, Vigilant Guardian, Northern Vigilance, and Vigilant Warrior were the names tossed about. In fact NORAD had EXTRA personnel as did many other places that day due to the games. There was an interesing twist. An unseasoned officer was put in charge THAT particular day.

Plus the fact that there were over 60 ROUTINE intercepts of errant planes in the first 6 months of 2001. There is not this much stupidity within all these people.

7. New reports have surfaced regarding the shootdown of Flight 93 over Pennsylvania, by a pilot named Ricky Gibbs, of the Happy Hooligans, who received a medal from none other than Governor Ridge for his valor on 9-11. (These medals are normally given at the White House, Why the Secrecy?) Interestingly Ridge now runs Homeland Security.

8. An Israeli Rabbi Dov Zakheim RAN the very company System Planning Corporation ( A company who make onboard radio control equipment to prevent hijackings) http://www.sysplan.com See both FTS & CTS.. Obivously used that day. This man now works inside the Bush Administration.

9. Sibel Edmonds has been trying to bring the facts forward about foreknowledge of impending attacks with planes & specific buildings. Mixed in with this all is a seemingly huge amount of information regarding intergovernmental & Semi-Legitimate Companies operating Drugs, Money Laundering, & weapons plus so much more. It's as if Iran-Contra just got bigger and better.

10. Another site I have found some interesting information is http://www.vialls.homestead.com/index.html. I am unsure as to the complete validity of all the information on his site, but he seems quite knowlegeable about Electronically Controlling Aircraft. I found most fascinating his articles on this and Operation Shekhinah, as well as information that disproves FAA Transcripts see: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stevese...leveland2.html. There may be an Israeli component in all this due to their DESPERATE need for oil & desire for expansion.

11. I found some additional interesting data within the Finnish Watch list, have emailed Fintan, however I think it unwise to post here or email him. Perhaps one day we can speak privately.

I KNOW there is MUCH more to DISCOVER!! The pieces are JUST beginning to FIT!!

That's it in a nutshell!!

Thank you for the WARM Welcome!
Gabriella
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Old 08-16-2004, 23:00
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Gabriella:

You may have already done so, but if not, I suggest reading this book, either on-line here, or in paper version.
http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/...55_comment.php

David Ray Griffin Biography:
David Ray Griffin is professor of philosophy of religion at Claremont School of Theology and Claremont Graduate University and one of the co-directors of the Center for Process Studies. He is the author of God, Power, and Evil: A Process Theodicy (1976) and Unsnarling the World-Knot: Consciousness, Freedom, and the Mind-Body Problem (199. He is the editor of The Reenchantment of Science: Postmodern Proposals (198. His next two books will be Religion and Scientific Naturalism: Overcoming the Conflicts, and A Process Philosophy of Religion.

http://www.counterbalance.net/bio/dg-body.html
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Old 08-16-2004, 23:07
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gabriella, in the site you mention, http://www.vialls.homestead.com/index.html, if you click on the first link about remote control usage on 9/11, it takes you to three avis at the top of the page.

in one image, the two buildings are burning and something is seen shooting from the ground directly up the building. do you know of any analysis on this anomaly?

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Old 08-16-2004, 23:12
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Nice post Gabriella.

In the last week or so reading the incredible work done on these pages, I'd have to conclude that the pieces are coming together nicely.

It was stated on another thread but I have thought the same thing. The power of the net.

After seeing F 9/11 two weeks back, I said to my dad on the ride home...

"These bastards have been screwing us for years, but in their ignorance and lack of cutting edge wisdom they overlooked the menace that is the internet."

"The old fogeys are gonna get burned by OUR weapon of mass destruction."
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Old 08-16-2004, 23:35
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HERE SHE IS!

Actual Flight 175

Medium
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/205074/M/
Large
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/205074/L/

Aircraft Taken at
More: United Airlines
More: Boeing 767-222
More: New York - John F. Kennedy International (Idlewild) (JFK / KJFK)
More: USA - New York, April 28, 2001

Remark
N612UA (cn 21873/41) On September 11, 2001, this aircraft was hijacked by terrorist swine and crashed in the south tower of New York's World Trade Center. RIP.
Photographer: Bill Hough
Contact Bill Hough

Could someone order this and make a JPEG of it please? This will prove very helpful for comparative purposes.

Two things of note:

1) Blade antenna(s) are not nearly large enough to account for what phil is describing as vapour producing jetsprays (I agree with that assessment now, for sure)
2) No avionics blade antenna at the rear under the tail where we see what we believe is a refueling boom port.

Locutus first found this back in early June.
This is so relevant IMO, that I felt it would be important to repost it, and keep it at the forefront, so I'm quoting myself!
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Old 08-16-2004, 23:39
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Try this link for the Remote Control Story.. he has MANY mirrored sites as they keep being brought down..

His name is Joe Vialls

LINK to Electronic Control
http://geocities.com/mknemesis/homerun.html

here is a link to the Operation Shekhinah Part I
http://www.joevialls.co.uk/sublimina...stion/oil.html

He must have 4 or 5 mirror sites and is having a hard time keeping his sites up due to the controversial nature of his information..

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Old 08-16-2004, 23:50
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And this little goodie....

http://fe.pennnet.com/Articles/Artic...ICLE_ID=131225
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