Tokarm,
a little correction is necessary. There is no record of Jesus teaching or preaching in Solomans temple. (maybe the story of his teaching on the meaning of scripture when he was 12 years old took place there,if so,it's the only mention.)

Jesus did not spend much time in Jerusalem.

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To get back at this for a brief moment: I'm still reading and will "comment" after I've read.

Kathy: I'll PM if I have questions, however, I don't think I've got anything that I would be "embarassed" to say in public here.

As for "picking" on me, asking me out on a date or whatever, no thanks.


I've been off trying to find a job closer to home, more conducive to my school hours. I'm only going part time, but the way my schedule is, the only day I have to spend with my friends and family is Sunday and that's a little hard to do with the differences in religions across the board.

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Li'l Spooky wrote:
Oh, please do, LS, I am looking forward to your reaction to Tocarm's explanations about how the Jesus & the Bible makes him so knowledgeable about what every woman wants (Divine Orgasms).

You mean "Picking up" on you (what I actually suggested)? Are you sure you don't want a date with Tocarm? Did you read what Jesus told him to write to you? It just seems to me that Jesus of all people would be able to give his buddies sure - fire pick up lines for getting girls and stuff. That stuff about "Holy" orgasms didn't work huh?



JimO

I should have simply wrote 'The Temple of Jerusalem', okay?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_in_Jerusalem
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Temple
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Temple

I had hoped that most of you would have at least had the mindset of thinking about the reason FOR the Temple of Jerusalem in the very first place, how it fulfills its role in God's Ministry to the human race under the provisions of the Mosaic Covenant.

I can only wonder if this sort of hyper-critical analysis of what I relay here is my lot in life and whether it is ever going to end. Apparently not, from these latest responses from Littlespooky and Jimostr!

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...24;&version=31

Maybe I should do Phil Jayhan and all the rest of you the huge favor of simply disappearing altogether - since nothing I can possibly say or do here brings about and slightest shred of light to go off in your minds!

Let me go and think about that...simply leaving on my own accord. And why not? I have my 'rotor blades' up to speed and my hand on the 'collective stick'. Just one little yank on the 'collective' - and I'm outta here, like in 'See Ya!'

- 1stAirCav

You haven't even been to school yet, and here you are with this 'Hi Drama' of telling everyone you are going to provide us your 'analysis' accompanied by your 'commentary'.

And just like a school age GIRL all so wrapped up in the thought-world of being "picked on" and "dates" and with about as much sense as boasting of your 'Celtic Wiccan' psuedo-spiritual/religious beliefs and practices in order to garner the attention and 'being special' amid the peer groups within your school.

You are the one who needs to grow up a wee bit here and listen to the advise, the knowledge, the wisdom that your ELDERS have about life and about living it - how NOT to live it and how TO live it!

Listen here, my little schoolGIRL, as a man - HUSBAND & FATHER - I was in the birthing room when my wife gave BIRTH to my sons. I accompanied her and did all that I could to provide her comfort and the consolation of my own presence throughout her womanly labor pains.

Both giving birth and witnessing THE BIRTH of another human being is a SACRED EVENT. It isn't an 'icky-pooh' disgusting event.

In Christ Jesus' Own time, the women who underwent the birth of a child was considered ritually 'unpure' to be included in and among the other members of the human community going about their daily, routine chores and business precisely on account of the fact that that woman, those women, were in the Presence of God Himself cooperating with God in His Divine Creative Act - and these new mothers had to undergo a 'purifying bath' in order to NORMALIZE THEM so that they could return to the every day human routines of daily life and living.

How many children have you conceived and how many children have you given birth to? How many children have looked up to you, trusted in you and depended 100% upon you to provide for all of their life's needs while not even being about TO TALK to you as their mother?

And you are going to provide for me your 'commentary' about what I tried to teach you about living life as a young woman in this world which wants to treat you women like A PIECE OF MEAT while suckering you into believing that you are some sorts of 'goddesses' behind all of those clothes and cosmetics all of you use.

And many of you women are SHRIVELLING UP like old spinsters on account of not having the abiding presence and personal experience of real, true, warm, compassionate, caring, fulfilling LOVE!

The publishers of the Harlequin books niche marketed to WOMEN make billions of dollars in sales of there 'Romance' books precisely become MEN are not taking the time to 'exquisitely pleasure' you women - and you had better understand that 'exquisitely pleasuring' a woman consists in a whole heck of a lot more that (for your schoolGIRL/Wiccan/Buffy the Vampire Slayer/Charmed level of understanding-appreciating what it is is that I'm trying to say to you here)..."touching pee-pees"!

So now, what do I need to do in order to garner at least some measure of RESPECT for my masculine nature as a MAN who might have a thing or two of great importance TO TEACH YOU so that you might continue on with the great hope of achieving happiness, fulfillment and the fullness of living life while still in this 'world' of ours which has not - as of the time of me writing this note to you - blown itself up in the upcoming World War III?

Do I have to tell you the names of all Colleges and Universities I've attended? Do I have to tell you how many classes in Biblical Studies, in Philosophy, in Theology, in Human Sexuality, in Biology, in the Sciences, in Business, in Manufacturing Technologies, in Aerospace technologies, in Business, in Finance, in Sales and Marketing, in Advertising, in Law, etc. that I've attended. Will THAT impress you enough to make you have some measure of gratitude and appreciation of what I've tried to teach you as a young schoolGIRL?

My parting advise to you, Little Spooky, with this posting of mine to you is this:

Rather than being so quick to launch off sacrasisms and criticisms - use that time to form QUESTIONS from which you can learn something of about and from the person you are at odds with!

"Nicodemus said 'HOW can a grown man be born? Can he go back into his mother's womb and be born again?' JESUS said...et al"
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...-8;&version=31

- 1stAirCav

And what is the reason behind YOUR becoming so uppity with me?

I suggest you go read the chapter entitled 'Sex and the Love of God' in Archbishop Fulton Sheen's book "Peace of Soul" - Chapter 8 if I recall correctly:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0892439157

Did you not yet read the Apostle's teaching:

"You see, the jealousy that I feel for you is God's Own Jealousy; I arranged fr you TO MARRY CHRIST so that I might give you as A CHASTE VIRGIN to this One Husband." - 2 Corinthians 11:2

"The Husband must give His wife what she has the right to expect, nd so to the wife to the Husband. The wife had no rights over her own body; it is the Husband Who has them. In the same way, the Husband has no rights over His Body; the wife has them. Do not refuse each other...."
1 Corinthians 7:2-5

Do READ "Mystical Marriage" here:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09703a.htm

Do READ 'Ecstacy' here:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05277a.htm

My word, has all the TV, radio and pubilshed GARBAGE spewed out for so many decades upon the minds, hearts, souls and spirits in this neo-pagan, secularized, 'Wicca-Buffy-Charmed' bamboozled world of ours nowadays utterly ruined peoples understanding of human sexuality and human spirituality. I am beginning to think so!

Catholic Christianity is not some Gnosticized Manicheanism placing a duality between the human body and the human spirit! Nor is Catholic Christianity some sort of de-humanized brutal pure animal biology that goes one between the male and female members of 'The Species'!

Catholic Christianity - the REAL 'CATHOLIC' Stuff' - embraces things like BEAUTY and TRUTH and FEELINGS and THOUGHTS and ACTIONS and ACTIVITIES! Every last thing that bonds and unites God to us and us to God within this All of God's Own Making!

My word, Jimostr - why do I deserve being DUMPED ON again by you? Why? What wrong or evil have I inflicted on you or Little Spooky in simply explaining basic 'bird & the bees' type of stuff to her?

When you yourself finally submitted yourself to the Sacrament of Confession and received the Grace of God Himself in His Divine Forgiving of your sin(s) - you were jumping up and down here on this forum with such an inner spiritual joy, enthrallment and excitement of what God did for you 'in spirit' rambling off about what was happening to you in your 'spirit' much like a FRESHMAN GIRL in highschool who was just asked out to go TO THE PROM with the Senior boy who was the Captain of the High School's State-Championship FOOT BALL TEAM!

I didn't laugh at what was happening/what happened to you 'in spirit'. As a matter of fact, I was very HAPPY to see what was going on inside of you 'in spirit'!

What do you suppose is going to happen to you 'in spirit' when the day comes that the Lord unites His Very Heart to your own human heart in the Christian Sacrament of the Eucharist? Why, you are simply going to be 'GA-GA IN LOVE' WITH GOD!

The very manly, masculine, tough, austere, no-non sence CHRISTIAN MONKS in their monastary on Mt. Athos devote their entire lives to the atttention of the Spiritaul Presence of God Himself with their own personal hope to experience >>THE KISS OF GOD<<!

---sshheesshhhh....

Can all of us AT LEAST make the attempt to 'Grow Up!' in our knowledge of the Apostolic Christian Faith, God, our human natures, redemption, salvation, Sacramental Grace - instead of wallowing perpetually in this shallow religious sci-fi fixations and preoccupations and diversions on account of the Puritanical tyranny of the Manichean human nature hating nature of the Protestant Revolters and their zany 'Sola Fide' and 'Sola Scriptura' RELIGIOUS POVERTY they've suckered the human race into adopting and living under?

- 1stAirCav

I was just being facetious, trying to make something humorous out of the disaster you created for our side of the debate. And I do mean disaster.

If we are going to be to putting this in military terms, It's as if you just delivered a whole warehouse full of ammunition into the hands of our adversaries. The "Protestants" or other non-catholics on this forum are just going to have a field day with your claims that Jesus told you to write that. So rather than avoiding the issue by changing the subject again why don't you just address it right now, Tocarm?

By what means exactly does Jesus communicate with you and supposedly gives you things to say to specific people on this forum?

JimO

Oh I know ;)


-- I just wanted to throw that offer out there for ya, as I would for anyone -- in turn, hoping that may end any of this rediculous talk by a "certain person" who won't take being banned TWICE as a "hint" to leave.

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It would be one thing if Phil were really serious about banning people, but what the hell's the point if they can just log in under a different screen name? Looks like you are stuck with Tocarm, might as well get used to it, and deal with it.

But I say this thread would be about as exciting as a bowl of lukewarm oatmeal if Tocarm weren't able to participate even if he is pretty weird at times. Think about it. If he weren't here to prod your lazy Church of England spawned asses around in your corrall, all of you alleged Christians would be doing is patting each other on the back about what a great bunch of folks y'all are, and how right everyone is who can spout the TV Evangelist Party line "Born again" bullshit ..Who would want to waste their time reading a whole thread about that?

At least Li'l Spooky's trying to be different by being a "celtic" wiccan, whatever that is. I don't know what to say about the rest of you "All paths are one" new age mumbo jumbo believers.... how about "boring!"? Wake me up when any of you new agers figure out how to argue your way out of a wet paper bag and stand up for something.

JimO

Hey JimO,

I love your last post!

I actually agree with you!

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