Gee whiz, did my thread cause all this fuss? Too funny what a little bit of dissent can do..!!!

Hows this for a little bit of Red paint on a white wall?

The pope can kiss my hairy pimpled ass, and keep his saliva crusted gold ring to himself!!

I have a relationship with god, through Christ, which I don't need little 'pope-boys' or people who pretend to be pious, and in the private life stab babies in barns....And all that that implies!

Thats right! My hairy, pimpled ass! Kind of paints a picture don't it? (Yar, thats going to replace the whale in my nightmares...!)

cheers-
phil

Fully forgiven, fully redeemed, and in no need of a pretending to be pious Pope who stabs babies in barns... Doh~!

Not clear enough for you? The Pope/Pontifex maximus is the Anti-christ! And the 666th Pope will be the Last one!

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"In disquisitions of every kind there are certain primary truths, or first principles, upon which all subsequent reasoning must depend." --Alexander Hamilton

Hell-o Phil

You know one of my favorite parts of the movie the Godfather is when the consiglieri character Tom (Robert Duvall) goes to visit Woltz the movie producer to ask a favor on behalf of Don Corleone. Although Woltz makes insulting remarks mentioning "Guineas, Wops, Micks and Krauts" in reference to Tom and his associates, Tom never bats an eye or loses his cool, and remains polite through the whole ugly speech. That scene, I think just demostrates an interesting difference in the character behind people who are refined and dignified in all circumstances, and people who are crude and malicious when things don't seem to be going their way.

This debate isn't proceeding to your liking, is it?

JimO

O'Contraire jimmostar--

The truth marches forward, with or without you! Christ said; 'I didn't come to bring peace, but to turn mother against father, Son against Sister..

Truth has nothing to do with worldly 'consensus'

It has everything to do about truth.

The 'Protestant Revolution' started by Luther and calvin marches on, and since its based upon truth, the pope/anti-christ is powerless.

cheers-
phil

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"In disquisitions of every kind there are certain primary truths, or first principles, upon which all subsequent reasoning must depend." --Alexander Hamilton

Oh and BTW I'm sorry to hear that you're having nightmares. That's not a good sign, y'know. Nero had 'em, Hitler had 'em, a lot of "famous" people.
Hope it's just something you ate, etc...

JO

you know, you and tocarm are among the most malicious and hateful people on the entire forums! hope this isn't indicitave of roman catholics as a whole!

You really take the cake jimmo with all your hatred and vitriol!

I am free to worship as I please, without having to kiss some saliva crusted ring of the antichrist!

And God accepts it because Jesus died for ALL my sins, before I even once sinned!

cheers-
phil

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"In disquisitions of every kind there are certain primary truths, or first principles, upon which all subsequent reasoning must depend." --Alexander Hamilton

Are you having nightmares or aren't you, Phil? If you are it's a bad sign. If you were just joking around then fine so was I.

Is someone trying to prevent you from worshipping as you please, Phil? Please continue and tell us how you are being persecuted.

Yes we understand this point of view of yours quite well. And you can feel free to continue sinning because Christ died for all of those future sins too, didn't he?

JimO

What is this NON-SENSE all of you people have - principally Mr. Jayhan -who espouse they have this "personal relationship with Jesus" when they PUBLICY DENOUNCE, REJECT, MOCK, IMPUGN CHRIST JESUS' OWN TEACHINGS!

I do not see what bloomin' good their having a 'copy of the Bible' is when they neither ACCEPT what 'The Bible' clearly has JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF teaching, preaching and asserting by His Own Divine Power.

How in blue blazes can these people - like Mr. Jayhan - make this pubilc proclamation that they have this "personal relationship" with Jesus Christ - as in "all by themselves One-on-one" like they are some sort of bible based self-proclaming 'christian' SECRET SOCIETY of their own - when they come right out an PUBLICLY PRONOUNCE/PROCLAIM they reject Jesus Christ's Own Divine Teachings as clearly recorded in "their" Bibles?

The asnwer to THAT conundrum is that each and every last vehemently anti-Apostolic Christian Faith individual with their - need I remind them all of this FACT - "their" STOLEN BIBLES sacked from the His Catholic Church during the Protestant REVOLT - and that is what it was - A REVOLT against Christ Jesus' Own Divine Teachings - are all having a "personal relationship" with a FALSE CHRIST and a FALSE GOSPEL being proclaimed by a FALSE 'CHURCH' here on earth.

Dont' think so? Don't think that PUBLIC BLASHPEMY against the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ Himself in the Catholic Church's Sacrament of the Eucharist is "CAUSE FOR PUNISHMENT" at and by the Power of Christ Jesus Himself? Go read "YOUR" BIBLES!

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...27;&version=31

It takes a whole heck of a lot of personal SPIRITAUL >HUBRIS< to start making personal proclamations such as public mockery of the Christ's Church's Eucharist coupled with this insane arrogance in asserting that one is "saved" by a simple HUMAN declaration that oneself proclaims himself or herself "saved"!

People, like Mr. Jayhan and every last one who are likeminded, with or without "their" Bibles actually believe that they have this personal 'spiritual power' TO PUSH GOD ASIDE in such a way as to render HIS DIVINE JUDGEMENTS "impotent" and "null and void" so as to pronounce upon themselves their own 'psuedo-divine judgement' UPON themselves that they are "saved"!

What NON-SENSE! Even St. Paul the Apostle confesses that HE HIMSELF >HOPES< to be "saved"!

And just like us Catholic Christians - believers in the Apostolic Faith as taught by and relayed to the entire world by Christ Jesus' Own Apostles who have to put up with this NON-SENSE of all these anti-Catholic Church bible-DIS-believers of the Rebellion, of the Revolt within the Kingdom of God here on earth, so did the Lord's Own Apostles!

ST. PAUL:
"Alexander the coppersmith has done me a lot of harm; THE LORD WILL REPAY HIM FOR WHAT HE HAS DONE. Be on guard against him yourself, BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN BITTERLY CONTESTING EVERYTHING THAT WE SAY." - 2 Timothy 4:14-15

ST. JUDE:
"My dear friends, at a time when I was eagerly looking forward to writing to you about the salvation that we all share, I have been forced to write to you and appeal to you TO FIGHT HARD FOR THE FAITH WHICH HAS BEEN ONCE AND FOR ALL ENTRUSTED TO THE SAINTS. Certain people have infilitrated among you, and they are the ones you had a warning about, in writing, long ago, when they were CONDEMNED for denying all religion, turning the Grace of God into immorality, and rejecting our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ." - Jude 3-4

Who are the ones here REJECTING our Master and Lord, Jesus Christ, Who Himself said that the Christian Church's Eucharist IS His Body and IS His Blood? Who?

And what sorts of 'Divine Grace' is it that allows people to experience NO REMORSE WHATSOEVER in calling beleivers in Christ Jesus and His Divine Teachings "assholes"?

- 2ndAirCav

Who indeed!!!!

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A LIE BELIEVED BY EVERYBODY IS NOT THE TRUTH

Mr. Jayhan w/ "his" Bible says:

"The 'Protestant Revolution' (not "Reform" now mind you, but "Revolution" as in "Revolt" - parens mine) started by Luther and Calvin marches on, and since its based on truth (ahem - comment/parens mine), the pope/anti-christ is powerless."

To be sure, Mr. Jayhan w/"his" Bible isn't Catholic. But the phunny thing about all of this is....he ain't even 'Protestant' nor does he heed the instructions of his beloved "revolutionary" leaders, Luther AND Calvin! See?

1) Martin Luther's Devotion to Mary @
http://ic.net/~erasmus/RAZ95.HTM

2) CALVIN: "All the Principles of Piety SUBVERTED BY FANATICS, Who Substitute Revelations for Scripture"

"Those who, REJECTING SCRIPTURE, imagine that they have some PECULIAR WAY OF PENETRATING TO GOD, are to be deemed not so much under the influence of error as madness." - quoting CALVIN from:
http://www.reformed.org/books/instit...1/bk1ch09.html

SCRIPTURE HAS IT:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...32;&version=31

SCRIPTURE HAS >>JESUS CHRIST<< SAYING:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...71;&version=31

And >>JESUS CHRIST<< Himself "verifies" what He Said! See?
http://www.monksofadoration.org/Betania.html
http://www.monksofadoration.org/Betania2.html
http://www.monksofadoration.org/Audrey.html

Mr. Jayhan has no personal devotion to the Mother of God, Mary.
Mr. Jayhan has no personal devotion to Calvin's instructions on revering Sacred Scripture either.

Mr. Jayhan's false praise of both LUTHER and CALVIN in order to continue
in his "one man Revolution" with a STOLEN COPY of the Catholic Church's Canon of Sacred Scripture under his arm makes one wonder whether he is lost in, as Calvin himself calls it, "madness".

For to call the Body and Blood of God Himself in the Christian Church's Sacrament of the Eucharist the result of a "witchcraft ritual" must surely border on "madness"!

So since no manner of public apology to us Catholic Christians is forthcoming, I must also suspect that no manner of formal public apology to the Protestant Reformation leaders of Luther or Calvin is forth coming either.

What kind of "religion" Mr. Jayhan is espousing with "his" Bible is now anybody's guess. Anyone care to give it a try?

And as it has always been with him and "his" bible in the past, the only way Mr. Jayhan "wins" his arguments and asserts the "truth" of his position is by simply BANNING people who dare stand up to him with both BIBLICAL as well as RELIGIOUS TRUTH.

So, you all will see me "in the future" signing on as "3rdAirCav".

"No one can believe in 'The Bible ALONE', because the Bible itself says NOT TO believe in the Bible ALONE' @
http://www.nw-cybermall.com/Rock-of-..._resources.htm

Boy o' boy, did Mr. Harold Bloom ever get his thesis in his book right!
"The American Religion - The Rise Of the POST-Christian Nation' @
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0671867377

For those of you who are suffering from a similar "strain of madness" (to borrow CALVIN's description of such people) as witnessed here in the case of Mr. Jayhan, your 'Rx' is to read this book by Mr. F.J. Sheed:

"Theology and SANITY" @
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0898704707

Folks, "religion" and "religous things" are SACRED. And to fiddle around willy-nilly with Divine Revelation, with Divine Truth is to invite any and all forms of "madness" as per Calvin's Institutes.

Please....BE CAREFUL handling 'The Word Of God'! And be MOST CAREFUL in handling 'The Body of Christ' as well as 'The Blood of Christ' of the Catholic Church's Sacrament of the Christian Eucharist in your thoughts, words and deeds!

Thank you.

- 2ndAirCav

First JimO,

I don't have a problem, you seem to think I do though which is a worry.

As for the willingly falling into sin BS, what a joke !! Sin by definition is willingly done, otherwise it's a mistake, a failure of ones principles to control one's behaviour. A bit like anger management.!!

The concept of being judged anonomously is a thought experiment, and just a tool to explain how the church views dissenters. It isn't a personal thing.

Jesus was a man, at least that's what we've been told.

I was referring to my personal relationship with the Creator, not anything to do with what Jesus said. I am not a follower of Christs teachings, I am a believer in God. As for Mary, and all the rest of it, well you are welcome to it. It doesn't play any significance in my life, nor does his holyness the pope. The effects of the RC Church are well known and global, doesn't make it right though.

Sorry guys that's how I see it and it makes me happy. I guess it's like a drug !!

Look See Do - LSD

Regards
Stann