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The Antichrist is called the BEAST only after Satan enters into him. The Resurrected antichrist is referred to as the BEAST.

The Beast (Resurrected Antichrist) who assumes the throne of Rome after he is killed and "Born Again" ressurected from the Dead to rule as the Pontiff of the world.

The UN will be an enforcement arm under which the BEAST is able to enforce his will upon the world.......

Best
Solomon

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See, I don't believe that. Only God can ressurect, and the only ressurection was Christ. Lucifer doesn't have the capabilities to ressurect a person, that only a power of God Himself. If that does happen, he will "look" like he was killed or reported he was "killed" when in reality, he was not and through the media, this will be spread to the entire world and the lie will be believed, but as far as a "resurrected" pope, it can't happen by the power of Satan/Lucifer..only God Himself can do such things.

A "beast" in the bible is a kingdom or a nation, not a "man". The beast is a nation or kingdom, probably the NWO as it is, with the false prophet being the Pope and 10 kings are regional "princes", but in the end, the 10 will hate the whore "RCC" and destroy her, for God determined to put it into thier hearts to do it. That is my outlook.

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"My people die for lack of knowledge." Hosea 4:6

Rhino,

You are a true scholar...... thanks for spending so much time contemplating the WORD OF GOD...... consider this......... and please comment regarding these scriptures..........

Is the Antichrist killed once or twice?
Who kills the Antichrist the first time?
Who kills him the second time if that is the case?
What is the murder weapon?
On what day does he die?
Where specifically does he die?

Lets start with something simple before we move further........

REV. 13: 3 And I saw one of his heads as it were WOUNDED TO DEATH; and his DEADLY WOUND WAS HEALED: and ALL THE WORLD wondered after the beast.

4 And they WORSHIPED THE DRAGON (Satan) which gave power unto the beast (resurrected Antichrist) : and they worshiped the beast (Satan who resurrected and indwelling the Antichrist) , saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? (Satan who resides in the Beast who is the resurrected soul of the Antichrist)

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Please answer the following.........

Is the wound of the head to a real person?
Does the world wonder that this occurs to a real person?
Is the beast a man? A system? A Kingdom?
Is the beast who was given a mouth to speak great things a real person?
Is it a person who lives for 42 months after they are brought to a point that the whole world says WHO CAN MAKE WAR WITH HIM SINCE THEY THINK HE HAS POWER OVER DEATH SINCE HE HAD A MORTAL WOUND TO THE HEAD THAT WAS MIRACOUSLY HEALED?

We shall continue to ponder these deep things since I agree with you........
My people die from a lack of knowledge.......

In the interest of the Kingdom which we both seek.......
We shall ask for wisdom......

Shalom,
Solomon........

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Soloman said:
Thanks Soloman, I respect your work and keep going with it. Although I agree with many of your points and disagree with a few points "not many ;)" of yours, I alway check your posts because I see the wisdom you have and thank the LORD for people like you and Phil.

Lets just consider a few things here. First, although I feel you already know who this is, for people that don't know and are willing to search the scriptures, this is what the LORD has revealed to me within the identity of the First Beast of Revelation which we see in Revelation 13.

"And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy." Revelation 13:1

A "beast" in prophecy represents a kingdom, a nation, or a power. The book of Daniel tells us - "Thus he said the fourth kingdom upon the earth." Daniel 7:23

The beat comes up out of th sea. The "sea" it represents a power rising out of a populated area, amid "peoples" and "multitudes" , "nations" and "tongues". Revelation 17:15...So basically, it would have to conquer an existing goverment where the "sea" of people are living.

The Beast has "seven heads, and ten horns". A "head" represents headquarters or power of a goverment. the head of the county is called a "county seat", you remember. A "horn" represents a king, a ruler. "And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise." Daniel 7:24

The beast has "the name of blasphemy" Rev 13:1
Well, the bible explains itself when providing the definition of blasphemy. "For a good work we stone you not, but for blasphemy, for you who are a man, proclaim that you are God." John 10: 32, 33....Man claiming to be God.

Another definition of blasphemy is in Mark 2:3-11 when a paralyzed man wanted to come into a house to see Yeshua but it was too crowded. He finally persuaded his friends to carry him up on the roof of Peters house and break it up so they could let the man down into the room where Yeshua was. There Yeshua told the man "Son, your sins are forgiven." The priests who were there said "Why does this man speak such blasphemies, for who can forgive sin but God."

Therefore, 2 definitions of in the bible for blasphemy are:

A.) Claiming to be God
B.) The Power to forgive sin

So basically, "and upon his heads the name of blasphemy." Revelation 13:1
This power would claim to be God and claim to have the power to forgive sins.

"and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority." Rev 13:2

Who is the dragon? Well by now you know that it is Satan. However, the dragon not only represents Satan but also Rome, for King Herod was a representative of Rome who sought to kill Yeshua when he was born in Revelation 19:15, 16

Now a "horn" grows out of the "head" of an animal. Therefore, the "ten horns" grow out of this beast. The dragon had "ten horns". What happened to Rome? After its fall, Rome separated into "ten" divisions. The horns that grew out of its fall were.

1.) Alemani (Germany)
2.) Franks (France)
3.) Burgundians (Switzerland)
4.) Suevi (Portugal)
5.) Anglo-Saxons (Britain)
6.) Visigoths (Spain)
7.) Lombards (Italy)
8.) Heruli
9.) Ostrogoths
10.)Vandals

A "little horn" grew out of the ten horns of the fallen Roman empire. "I considered the horns, and behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were the eyes like the eyes of a man, and a mouth speaking great things...and he shall subdue three kings. And he shall speak great words against the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they should be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time." Daniel 7: 8, 24, 25

So, as most of you know in 538 A.D. Justinian, the Roman Emperor thrusted out the Ostogoths out of the city of Rome with help of Belisarius the Emperors General. And they have become extinct. These were the last of the three to be "uprooted". After cooperation with the Emperor of Rome and the Pope, three of the ten were totally wiped out and have never existed again. These were the Heruli, the Vandals and the Ostrogoths. Bible prophecy fullfilled. Now this beast reigned for a period of 1260 years, from 538 A.D. to 1798 A.D.

Now the wound.

"and I saw one of the heads as if it was wounded to death, but the deadly wound was healed." Revelation13:3

The reign of this beast begin in 538 A.D. and ended in 1798 A.D. when Napoleans General Berthier ended papal domination and the Pope was taken prisoner and was sent to France where he later died. But as the bible predicted "who's deadly wound was healed, and all the world wondered after the beast." Revelation 13:3.

How did this happen? In 1929, the Lateran Treaty was signed and the Italian goverment recognized Vatican City and the Papal States and now, the Pope was King again. On March 9th, 1929 the Pope said, "The peoples of the entire world are with us." The San Francisco Chronicle published the account of the treaty on the front page of its newspaper, and it actually read like this: "Mussolini and Gaspari Sign Historic Pact...Heal wound of many years." Bible prophecy fulfilled again, and in its own words.

Considering the beast "And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world." Revelation 13:8. This is key, for this "beast" is not just a political power but also a "religious" power as well. It demands worship, and gets it, by force or conversion.

So which world power, who came up out of the ten divisions of Rome, is a political and religious in nature. Who has a man that claims to be God and be able to forgive sins, who recieved its "seat", "authority" and "power" from Rome?

"And there came one of the seven angels, which had the seven vials, and talked with me saying unto me, "Come here; I will show you the judgement of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters... and I saw a women sit upon a scarlet colored beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns." Revelation 17: 1-3.

So here, we see the same beast of Revelation 13, however now a "women" is riding it. A woman in bible prophecy means a "church". God likens His people to a "comely and delicate woman." Jeremiah 6:2 A virgin church without blemish represents the true church of Yeshua, and a "harlot" is an apostate church, who claim to be married to Christ, but commits spiritual adultery by having a mixture of truth and error, Christianity and Paganism.

"And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls." Revelation 17:4. It's a very rich church. Since she is "riding" the beast (Rome) she is controlling it, wherever she wants to go. She gets her "power", "seat" and "great authority" from Rome. See, this is a repeat for the "harlot" and the "sea beast" are identical; political and religious. This is the defintion of "union of church and state" which our forefathers vigorously fouth against in the founding our nation. Not only is she rich and elegant, she is "drunk with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration." Revelation 17:6 This church is also a "Mother" for she is called "THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH." Revelation 17:5


So what do we have here? Lets go over what we just studied.

1.) Recieved "power" and "seat" from Rome.
2.) Rules the world for 1260 years
3.) Received deadly wound, only to be healed again
4.) Both political and religious power, which is worshipped
5.) Leader that claims to be God and able to forgive sins
6.) Changed "times and Laws" (sabbath to sunday and stipped the 2nd commandment
forbidding idol worship.I didn't go over this but it is easy to find on the internet as well as the catholic churches own words and teachings.)
7.) Is a mother church, which she has daughters
8.) Made war with the saints and killed the martyrs of Jesus
9.) World Power which is wondered at
10.) Rich elegant church with purple, scarlet, precious stones and pearls.

Ok by now i think you know, the beast of Revelation 13 is the Papacy and the the Roman Catholic Church. Very easy to see and history and bible totally make no room for anything else. Any Catholic reading this now, I urge you to study history and the bible, and you will see that history doesn't lie, nor does the bible.

Soloman, i hope that answers some of your questions that you asked, I tried to break them all down and answer them for you. Please leave me a comment and let me know what you think.

Thanks,

P.S. The reason why I use 1260 years and not "days" is based on the "day for a year" principle.

The above bible-prophecy time frames use the day-for-a-year principle. That is, the figures (such as 1260) can stand for units of days or as units of years. Theologians prior to the 20th century commonly understood the Bible-Prophecy time-periods of "days" as figurative for "years." This day-for-year principle is especially evident in the Book of Ezekiel.

God told the prophet Ezekiel to lay on his side, "a day for each year," according to the pattern of when Israel came out of Egypt. Israel had been sentenced to 40 years of wandering in the desert according to the 40 days that they had spied out the land––"a day for every year" (Numbers 14:34). Likewise,


God told Ezekiel: "I have assigned you the same number of days as the years of their sin. So for 390 days you will bear the sin of the house of Israel…and bear the sin of the house of Judah. I have assigned you 40 days, a day for each year" (Ezekiel 4:5,6).
Daniel 9:24-27 is another indisputable example of where a day can symbolize a year. Though the text literally reads "70 weeks," yet scholars almost universally understand "weeks" here as symbolic of "70 times ‘seven’-years." I understand them as both days or years. And with the history above, 538 A.D. to 1798 A.D = 1260 days or "years".


If you aren't sure of this principle, thats ok because alot of people aren't. Some people do, some people don't. I'm just one that does. Enjoy.

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"My people die for lack of knowledge." Hosea 4:6

Damien,

While I won't be touching on all the points made, I think it is fairly easy to see and understand why the 70 weeks in Daniel is 70 weeks of days, and not years. And can only be that. Why?

Well, consider that the 70 weeks of Daniels dream were tied to something else in context;

Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince [shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

In the context of this prophecy in Daniel, it is very obviously tied to the commandment going forth to rebuild the city walls of Jerusalem. I checked and it appears the commandment from King Artexerxes to rebuild the city walls went out in 457BC.

Thus this begins a countdown unto the coming of the Prince or Messiah. It would be 7 weeks ( 7 years ) and 62 weeks ( 483 years ) unto Messiah the Prince, and him being cut off from among his people.

Thus it is a total of 69 "7's" - Thus 483 years of 360 solar days

Thus the number being 173,880 days. And Messiah the Prince came just as promised, in the 69th seven, or after 483 years after King Artexerxes gave the command to rebuild the walls of Jerusalem.

And this is exactly what we see; 483 years to the T later, Christ rides into Jerusalem in his triumphal entry. Exactly 173,880 days after the King, Artexerxes, gave the command to rebuild the Walls of Jerusalem.

Now here is where I believe we need to study and look at. I believe it states elsewhere in Daniel that Messiah the Prince would be cut of in the middle of the final "7." And Christ was indeed "cut-off" in the middle of the final "7." Thus we can identify and prove here that the time period is defined by the very prophecy from which it springs. In other words, the prophecy itself shows you it has to be weeks of years, or 483 years to be exact.

And this is because Christ's birth and coming are given very specific dates and times, thus they are intertwined and mingled in a way which we cannot separate. So here we can see easily that the 1260 year reign of Anti-Christ as preached by some is simply and inherently wrong. It is a completely false rendering of the meaning of those scriptures.

You should hopefully see after reading this that Christ did indeed come as was promised by Daniel the Prophet; Christ came exactly 483 years or 173,880 days after King Artexerxes gave the commandment to rebuild the city walls of Jerusalem around 457 BC or so. And as was foretold by the prophecies of Daniel.

And his ministry began the 70th seven or final 7 year period of Daniels prophecy. Thus he came exactly 483 years after the King gave command, and then, in his ministry, began the final 7 year period of Daniels 70th 7.

But Christ was cut-off in the middle of this final "7". This is where he was crucified around 3 1/2 years into his ministry. Thus it appears that the "Time of Jacobs trouble" or the "Tribulation" as we call it will last only 3 1/2 years.

I hope this helps you see it from a whole different and less confusing angle.

Cheers-
Phil

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Phil, everything you said about the 70 weeks of Daniel I completely agree with ya dude. The only thing is with Daniel, the other 3 1/2 is where I'm lost, I don't see the years just stopping and I've heard that they ended with the stoning of Stephen, for since Gabriel said "For your people" he was talking about the jews, and when Stephen was stoned, the word went to the gentiles. Now I think I read that here somewhere and I wanted to know if anyone had any dates ect.. cause I think that is it, or close to it.

But yeah, I agree with ya on the 70 years.

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"My people die for lack of knowledge." Hosea 4:6

Part 12

Why did they kill the good CIA Agent Roland Carnaby?
He knew of the missing nuke. Where is the missing nuke?

I must post this disclaimer............

Even though I believe all the above to be true I believe it was posted
by the DARK FORCES inside our intel services...... who know and are
trying to marshall other's into a deeper deception to deceive yet others in the
later onion rings of deception.

Regarding the Earth Defense Federation.org Who in the world has
money to hire people? HOWEVER, It is most certain since I followed
the details of Agent Carnaby......... that he was tracking a nuke around
the Houston area......... get to close........ get whacked........

Earth Defense Federation.org and the "Last Hope" fellow put together
some pretty good videos but I DO NOT SUPPORT their EDF crap.....

EDF is speaking truth right now.. Why to gather you into a later deception...

However from the words of VP Biden and Colin Powell..........
something is cooking right after President Obam swears the oath on the
same Bible that President Lincoln used.








In case you want to know what the eyes look like in a demon possessed person
please take a close at their eyes..........

If you want to get a close up of the youtube video you have to click on the icon on his forehead......

The reptilian eyes are the window to the soul to reveal the snake within........

Genesis 3:5
For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened,
and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Genesis 3:7
And the eyes of them both were opened.

Proverbs 16:30
He shutteth his eyes to devise froward things: moving his lips he bringeth evil to pass.









As Phil says,

Cheers,
Solomon

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Rhino,
Been -50 below here in Alaska and to busy to get back to you but will return soon.
S

Thank you for taking the time to post this. I do believe that something is going to happen and I suspect it just might be Pasadena or Texas City.
Keep 'em coming.
Megan
I had a vision back in May of a nuclear attack, but could not see or determine the location. Now it is making sense.

Attempted attack on Benedict XVI at Midnight 'Mass

Ok which of you forum members flew to the Vatican and did this number to Caesar?
. This had 28 views when I posted it.......


As Benedict XVI was recessing from St. Peter's Basilica on Christmas morning, an individual leaped over a barrier and was moving toward the 'Pope' before being apprehended by Vatican security. The would-be assailant turned out to be a psychiatric (lower ranking member of an order of Rome) patient who allegedly wanted to bite the 'Pontiff' on the neck! Details about the bizarre incident, sketchy as they are at the moment, can be found in More on foiled attack on BXVI from The Catholic Herald.

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Monday 29, 2008 December

A psychiatric patient intended to bite Pope Benedict in the neck during a foiled attack at the Midnight Mass at St Peter’s over Christmas.

Erwin Niederberger, the press officer for the Swiss Guards, told the Swiss online magazine20 Minuten that the hooded figure tackled to the ground by the Pope’s security people (see below) on Christmas eve was a mentally disturbed Italian woman. Neither Benedict XVI nor the rest of the congregation seemed fazed by the incident.

Fr Federico Lombardi, who heads the Vatican’s press office told the Associated Press on December 25 that he thought that the attacker wanted to greet the Pope.

“The woman wanted to bite the Pope in the neck,” said Niederberger.

According to Niederberger the woman is a Italian residing in Switzerland where she is in psychiatric care. The Swiss news agency claims that the woman was motivated by the reports in which the Pope’s Christmas message had been interpreted as a direct attack on homosexuals and transsexuals. She is now in police custody. It is unclear whether she will be returned to Switzerland.

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