The Hierarchy of the Roman Empire/Catholic Church - Page 5

**SoldierOfTheLord** · 14 Mar 2006 , 16:45 PM

Hahahaha - true you are a crack up sometimes. lol

The whole eucharist thing comes from the Last Supper. As I'm sure you know. They simply think it is the ACTUAL flesh and blood of Jesus - I mean like you are actually eating a piece of His flesh, and drops of His blood....but in a form you can receive it - the bread and wine. Which, of course, is wrong. If the people in that church would just take time to prayerfully read God's Word for themselves, and ask the Holy Spirit what the TRUTH is about Catholic doctrine, they would see and that veil would be lifted.

And as far as bowing and scraping for priests - lol - that's just a crack up! Actually - You'd be surprised how many Catholic seriously think the priest is the "end all - be all - know it all" of any Biblical teaching and even Catachismal teaching. SO many Catholics take every single thing the priests say as FACT - and they would never DREAM of actually testing them on what they teach by checking the Word and seeing if they have a clue what they're talking about. Because "they went to years of seminary and they have all the doctrinal teachings - so they MUST know everything they're talking about!" <raises one eyebrow>

**trueblue** · 15 Mar 2006 , 02:25 AM

Kathy,
Glad you are amused

But I was referring to what I had learned from tokarm regarding the priests being the only ones who can perform this magical ritual.
Rituals are by design,repetitions that hypnotize the mind, and are mostly found in pagan and Satanic belief systems.
From what I know of the Catholic faith , rituals are pretty much what it's all about! ('

')
Praise the lord!

**SoldierOfTheLord** · 15 Mar 2006 , 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by trueblue

Kathy,
Glad you are amused

But I was referring to what I had learned from tokarm regarding the priests being the only ones who can perform this magical ritual.
Rituals are by design,repetitions that hypnotize the mind, and are mostly found in pagan and Satanic belief systems.
From what I know of the Catholic faith , rituals are pretty much what it's all about! ('

')
Praise the lord!

Ahhhhhh I seeee! Very interesting True! You're right - I never thought of it that way - but wow - you're right! Because they do perform it over and over and over throughout people's whole lives! That's why its so hard to leave - because they brainwash people into thinking you HAVE to be Catholic to be holy enough! And that every Christian who is not Catholic just doesn't have "the fullness of the 'True Church'...see?"

<spoken like the guy on 'Laughin'> "Veeeeeeeeeery interesting!" ;)

**0bserver** · 15 Mar 2006 , 23:22 PM

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Originally Posted by trueblue

Kathy,
Glad you are amused

But I was referring to what I had learned from tokarm regarding the priests being the only ones who can perform this magical ritual.
Rituals are by design,repetitions that hypnotize the mind, and are mostly found in pagan and Satanic belief systems.
From what I know of the Catholic faith , rituals are pretty much what it's all about! ('

')
Praise the lord!

I don't agree with this.

Rituals are by design, structured motions that are to be performed with as much consciousness as possible. They are found everywhere including mundane life and are not mostly found in pagan and satanic belief systems. They are found virtually everywhere.

As for the hypnotizing effect that some may utilise, it is true that certain people who generally know better, will include people who are not able to maintain a degree of consciousness during a ritual and, after repetition, will become hypnotised during these experiences. That is otherwise known as vampirism.

Hope that clears some things up...

*Priests are not the only ones who can perform any type of ritual - that is a complete load of crap. A priest is a human being. Nothing more.

**SoldierOfTheLord** · 16 Mar 2006 , 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 0bserver

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Originally Posted by trueblue

Kathy,
Glad you are amused

But I was referring to what I had learned from tokarm regarding the priests being the only ones who can perform this magical ritual.
Rituals are by design,repetitions that hypnotize the mind, and are mostly found in pagan and Satanic belief systems.
From what I know of the Catholic faith , rituals are pretty much what it's all about! ('

')
Praise the lord!

I don't agree with this.

Rituals are by design, structured motions that are to be performed with as much consciousness as possible. They are found everywhere including mundane life and are not mostly found in pagan and satanic belief systems. They are found virtually everywhere.

As for the hypnotizing effect that some may utilise, it is true that certain people who generally know better, will include people who are not able to maintain a degree of consciousness during a ritual and, after repetition, will become hypnotised during these experiences. That is otherwise known as vampirism.

Hope that clears some things up...

*Priests are not the only ones who can perform any type of ritual - that is a complete load of crap. A priest is a human being. Nothing more.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I just think there's more to what true is saying there. I see it as a combination of the brainwashing and rituals working together to draw people in and hold them there like "spiritual" prisoners, ya know what I mean?

And I don't know that true is saying "only the priests or the Catholic church do any type of rituals" - obviously that would just be a silly - I think just because that is the topic we're on right now, he was referring to these specific rituals.

Because, of course, any person, anywhere, can perform a ritual everyday -- shoot - I wash and dry my hair every morning and do my makeup -- that technically could be considered a "ritual" I suppose. I don't think true meant that these "Catholic" rituals are the "end all be all", he was being specific.

***now him mentioning rituals being very dominant in satanic cults, this IS absolutely true - which tells you something about the Catholic church and it's connections. But --- see Observer man - you know anytime we mention satan, you don't believe what we do - so let's just let that part go, ok? Just agree to disagree? ;)

**trueblue** · 16 Mar 2006 , 01:46 AM

SOTL's got it, I think.
Washing hands regularly can be considered a ritual in a very broad sense, but it;s purpose is clearly very mundane.
The rituals I was referring to are designed to raise the consciousness to a higher level(Heaven,Nirvana,etc)
The Illuminatus that sacrifices babies,
The devout Catholic saying a zillion Hail Marys,
The alchemist staring into a chemical mist for years on end,till he finally sees what he's watched for, his transformation,his "Philosopher Stone"
All have the same goal. Enlightenment

**0bserver** · 20 Mar 2006 , 18:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SoldierOfTheLord

Because, of course, any person, anywhere, can perform a ritual everyday -- shoot - I wash and dry my hair every morning and do my makeup -- that technically could be considered a "ritual" I suppose. I don't think true meant that these "Catholic" rituals are the "end all be all", he was being specific.

***now him mentioning rituals being very dominant in satanic cults, this IS absolutely true - which tells you something about the Catholic church and it's connections. But --- see Observer man - you know anytime we mention satan, you don't believe what we do - so let's just let that part go, ok? Just agree to disagree? ;)

Yes! I agree - there are many "mundane" rituals performed everyday which work God's magic so to speak.

********Rituals are not dominant in satanic cults! That is a false statement. sheesh. What is true is Rituals are a dominant feature/aspect of satanic cults. I do believe and understand who and what the satanic cults are/do sotl. I know what they believe in - unfortunately they have it wrong. The being they are thinking of is not evil and has a divine job to do as with every other single thing in the entire universe. There's no rogue being out of God's control (rotfl to think so is so funny imo).

The stupid satanists will reap their seeds and it won't be much fun - just as many Christians will do for repeatedly praying without any substance and abusing their own children in the same manner that the nwo do with mind control. Emotional and mental ritual abuse occurs in Christian households every day too - just not consciously as it happens in the nwo. This is a result of the nwo's strategies over centuries and also our own ignorance.

my2c for the day lol

**SoldierOfTheLord** · 20 Mar 2006 , 19:56 PM

Observer said: Rituals are not dominant in satanic cults! That is a false statement. sheesh. What is true is Rituals are a dominant feature/aspect of satanic cults.

LOL - ok fine Mr. Observer ;) - tomato/tomahto! lol Gosh you get so technical! lol

**Force** · 21 Mar 2006 , 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 0bserver

As for the hypnotizing effect that some may utilise, it is true that certain people who generally know better, will include people who are not able to maintain a degree of consciousness during a ritual and, after repetition, will become hypnotised during these experiences. That is otherwise known as vampirism.

Vampirism? I assume you're not referring to the traditional vampire?

Sorry but I think that I (like many other people here) don't follow you. What do you exactly mean by people being "hypnotized" by rituals?

**0bserver** · 21 Mar 2006 , 22:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Force

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Originally Posted by 0bserver

As for the hypnotizing effect that some may utilise, it is true that certain people who generally know better, will include people who are not able to maintain a degree of consciousness during a ritual and, after repetition, will become hypnotised during these experiences. That is otherwise known as vampirism.

Vampirism? I assume you're not referring to the traditional vampire?

Sorry but I think that I (like many other people here) don't follow you. What do you exactly mean by people being "hypnotized" by rituals?

Vampirism. By that I mean consciously taking advatnage of someone. It can vary in degrees all the way up to where we have idiots who have addicted themselves to drinking blood and think they are real vampires. There is a ghostly side to it but I'm not going there here. If there is a group of people sitting in a room and someone covers up the fact that they are depressed or angry. People in the room will feel it no matter how well they hide it. Without going into details that is the principle.

So, if someone performs rituals with someone they know cannot keep up and this person who cannot keep up falls asleep or other during the experience the person doing the ritual will have control over the situation to a degree. Again, without going into details that is the principle. If the inexperienced person is under duress of a type and regularly returns to the rituals the experienced person has a victim. There's a lot of techincal things to talk about here but to cut to the chase - a person who is being vampiric will feel better after they have attacked a victim. This is the same as judgementalism for example. We feel better about ourselves when we judge someone critically. This is also a form of vampirism. This is hard to explain here...

If someone is feeling happy and someone else brings them down - what happened to their happy feelings? They don't vanish. Usually the person who is being nasty will now have those feelings and can feel better as a result.

Hope that's a little clearer.

This isn't a topic for debate here imo btw. If you don't believe feelings are real energy or thought is real energy or whatever so be it. Let's not turn this into another debunker thread :D

14 Mar 2006 , 16:45 PM	#41
SoldierOfTheLord Moderator Join Date: 17 Dec 2004 Location: Northwest US Posts: 3,336 Threads: 503 Thanked 34 Times in 31 Posts	Hahahaha - true you are a crack up sometimes. lol The whole eucharist thing comes from the Last Supper. As I'm sure you know. They simply think it is the ACTUAL flesh and blood of Jesus - I mean like you are actually eating a piece of His flesh, and drops of His blood....but in a form you can receive it - the bread and wine. Which, of course, is wrong. If the people in that church would just take time to prayerfully read God's Word for themselves, and ask the Holy Spirit what the TRUTH is about Catholic doctrine, they would see and that veil would be lifted. And as far as bowing and scraping for priests - lol - that's just a crack up! Actually - You'd be surprised how many Catholic seriously think the priest is the "end all - be all - know it all" of any Biblical teaching and even Catachismal teaching. SO many Catholics take every single thing the priests say as FACT - and they would never DREAM of actually testing them on what they teach by checking the Word and seeing if they have a clue what they're talking about. Because "they went to years of seminary and they have all the doctrinal teachings - so they MUST know everything they're talking about!" <raises one eyebrow> __________________ Jesus is the Way, the TRUTH, and The Life - the 9/11 truth WILL come out, He will not let the LIE stand! The word is getting out by leaps and bounds - let's stand together and be ready - because "the glass is about to overflow"!! ;) -Kathy

15 Mar 2006 , 02:25 AM	#42
trueblue Moderator Join Date: 9 Feb 2005 Location: United States Posts: 4,084 Threads: 117 Blog Entries: 3 Thanked 111 Times in 74 Posts	Kathy, Glad you are amused But I was referring to what I had learned from tokarm regarding the priests being the only ones who can perform this magical ritual. Rituals are by design,repetitions that hypnotize the mind, and are mostly found in pagan and Satanic belief systems. From what I know of the Catholic faith , rituals are pretty much what it's all about! ('') Praise the lord! __________________ A LIE BELIEVED BY EVERYBODY IS NOT THE TRUTH

16 Mar 2006 , 01:46 AM	#46
trueblue Moderator Join Date: 9 Feb 2005 Location: United States Posts: 4,084 Threads: 117 Blog Entries: 3 Thanked 111 Times in 74 Posts	SOTL's got it, I think. Washing hands regularly can be considered a ritual in a very broad sense, but it;s purpose is clearly very mundane. The rituals I was referring to are designed to raise the consciousness to a higher level(Heaven,Nirvana,etc) The Illuminatus that sacrifices babies, The devout Catholic saying a zillion Hail Marys, The alchemist staring into a chemical mist for years on end,till he finally sees what he's watched for, his transformation,his "Philosopher Stone" All have the same goal. Enlightenment __________________ A LIE BELIEVED BY EVERYBODY IS NOT THE TRUTH

20 Mar 2006 , 19:56 PM	#48
SoldierOfTheLord Moderator Join Date: 17 Dec 2004 Location: Northwest US Posts: 3,336 Threads: 503 Thanked 34 Times in 31 Posts	Observer said: Rituals are not dominant in satanic cults! That is a false statement. sheesh. What is true is Rituals are a dominant feature/aspect of satanic cults. LOL - ok fine Mr. Observer ;) - tomato/tomahto! lol Gosh you get so technical! lol __________________ Jesus is the Way, the TRUTH, and The Life - the 9/11 truth WILL come out, He will not let the LIE stand! The word is getting out by leaps and bounds - let's stand together and be ready - because "the glass is about to overflow"!! ;) -Kathy