1776incarnate
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After having watched the linked video of construction footage, I have a few observations and theories on it - when considering the hollow towers hypothesis.
It's seems to me that most of the floors had no concrete floor, because if they did we'd have a debris pile 10 stories high - of just concrete. And let's face facts, that concrete did not turn to dust.
So allow me to propose a theory and please feel free to offer your own thoughts and observations.
In this aerial shot, I see what appears to be three workers standing on corrugated iron installed as temporary flooring and/or substrate to pour the slab on. Notice some of that level is still exposed trusses same as the next level up. I have framed what I believe to be the corrugated sheeting (roofing iron) used to construct the temporary floor.
Here are a few more examples for good measure.
Here are a couple of shots taken standing directly on the substrate. one you can clearly see corrugation and one you can't which I don't quite understand but whatever.
In this shot, you can see the substrate through the exterior window cavity on what appears to be every level.
But as the camera tilts upward, the highlighted expanse seems to get darker each level that goes up, appearing as though there is only one substrate over about 5 floors. Could this show that not every floor had even the basic corrugated iron substrate? ie no intention of being developed? Is that something that would be done at a later date during the course of a high rise construction? I'm interested to hear thoughts on this..
What I'm about to point out in this shot is easier to see in the moving footage so I recommend having a look for yourself, but as you can tell by this still shot, you can see through the building for a good 9 or 10 stories. The size or aperture of each 'hole' remains the same from top to bottom. I would have expected the openings to decrease in size the further the openings move away from the viewers eye level (horizon - focal point) - due to the floors above and below obscuring the view through the openings - the higher and lower they are from the horizon. As they are all the same size, it us as though there is no floor to obscure the openings - meaning a cavity of 10 levels?
I know that's hard to understand, but notice what a level of floor does to obscure ones vision as in the below picture, and hopefully you get the idea of what I'm trying to say ..
See how the floor goes off on quite a steep angle toward the focal point? It's quite profound this close up, and I would have thought it would be even more profound at the distance of the log range shot, but it's not happening.. thoughts?
Again, It gives me the impression that a vast expanse (10 stories or more) has no floor in that one shot. And it makes me wonder how much of the building may have ended up like that..
These two shots are of the same area close to ground level and seem to show concrete over the corrugated iron but I'm not 100%. Perhaps this was a floor that they intended to actually use so couldn't avoid putting a slab in? This is what I would have expected every single floor to look like, as it went up..
In this last one, the outer facade is basically finished, and you can see what appears to be lights on in the lower levels. but what about the levels highlighted? No illumination.. Were all those floors not being worked on? looks weird..or maybe they are HOLLOW
you tell me ..
How good would it be to get a hold of someone who worked for the Tishman Realty & Construction Company or any of their sub contractors who worked on the project to get their input!
original video here:
Cheers,
Jamie
It's seems to me that most of the floors had no concrete floor, because if they did we'd have a debris pile 10 stories high - of just concrete. And let's face facts, that concrete did not turn to dust.
So allow me to propose a theory and please feel free to offer your own thoughts and observations.
In this aerial shot, I see what appears to be three workers standing on corrugated iron installed as temporary flooring and/or substrate to pour the slab on. Notice some of that level is still exposed trusses same as the next level up. I have framed what I believe to be the corrugated sheeting (roofing iron) used to construct the temporary floor.
Here are a few more examples for good measure.
Here are a couple of shots taken standing directly on the substrate. one you can clearly see corrugation and one you can't which I don't quite understand but whatever.
In this shot, you can see the substrate through the exterior window cavity on what appears to be every level.
But as the camera tilts upward, the highlighted expanse seems to get darker each level that goes up, appearing as though there is only one substrate over about 5 floors. Could this show that not every floor had even the basic corrugated iron substrate? ie no intention of being developed? Is that something that would be done at a later date during the course of a high rise construction? I'm interested to hear thoughts on this..
What I'm about to point out in this shot is easier to see in the moving footage so I recommend having a look for yourself, but as you can tell by this still shot, you can see through the building for a good 9 or 10 stories. The size or aperture of each 'hole' remains the same from top to bottom. I would have expected the openings to decrease in size the further the openings move away from the viewers eye level (horizon - focal point) - due to the floors above and below obscuring the view through the openings - the higher and lower they are from the horizon. As they are all the same size, it us as though there is no floor to obscure the openings - meaning a cavity of 10 levels?
I know that's hard to understand, but notice what a level of floor does to obscure ones vision as in the below picture, and hopefully you get the idea of what I'm trying to say ..
See how the floor goes off on quite a steep angle toward the focal point? It's quite profound this close up, and I would have thought it would be even more profound at the distance of the log range shot, but it's not happening.. thoughts?
Again, It gives me the impression that a vast expanse (10 stories or more) has no floor in that one shot. And it makes me wonder how much of the building may have ended up like that..
These two shots are of the same area close to ground level and seem to show concrete over the corrugated iron but I'm not 100%. Perhaps this was a floor that they intended to actually use so couldn't avoid putting a slab in? This is what I would have expected every single floor to look like, as it went up..
In this last one, the outer facade is basically finished, and you can see what appears to be lights on in the lower levels. but what about the levels highlighted? No illumination.. Were all those floors not being worked on? looks weird..or maybe they are HOLLOW
you tell me ..How good would it be to get a hold of someone who worked for the Tishman Realty & Construction Company or any of their sub contractors who worked on the project to get their input!
original video here:
Cheers,
Jamie
