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Re: Jason Burmas On Fake 9/11 Victims (gatekeeper)!
Bermas claims are unfounded and downright lies. There is tons of great things in September Clues, which can be rejected by people, but cannot be debunked. If Simon made mistakes or took this or that too far, then thats one thing. And to be dealt with as a separate issue.
Simon Shack has the most compelling film for TV fakery that is available, and while he might not get all things right, or I disagree on this or that, he is to be applauded for this fine video. Maybe someone can find that clip of the one guy walking through another, and when he does his arm and part of his torso disappear. From Equinox post here: Quote:
And the clip of the plane coming out the other side of the tower is compelling evidence of CGI, maybe someone can post that clip of Simons showing the nose out and Simons interpretation of it, which is very compelling. Even more compelling is the voiceover on the ABC footage of Evan Fairbanks footage says flat out something to this effect; "The plane flew right out the other side of the building, oh my God, I can't believe it..." Here is the Evan Fairbanks video with the 'plane in, plane out' footage; Perhaps someone can find that audio from the Evan Fairbanks overlay. Now add to this the fact that TrueAmerican found good enough pictures and enough of them showing no possible exit hole for that plane coming out the other side of the building. No exit hole on the entire facade of the structure. Maybe Simon Shack can incorporate the audio from the Evan Fairbanks footage, along with the pictures of no exit holes on the other side of the building. It would make for a fairly airtight presentation and likely theory. Don't let people like Bermas sidetrack any of you from the obvious. And Bermas has just got to hate the idea of the Hollow Towers and all of our research that's marching his way as well. Did anyone else sense the nervousness of Jason Bermas voice? When I listened to it it sure did sound like there was a lot of nervousness in Bermas voice, and in my opinion it seemed he was lying through his teeth. So what if Simon made mistakes? Bermas doesn't even listen, he cuts the guy off and now has to make everyone think so badly of Simons work that they won't bother looking for themselves. From Kelly's video post; Quote:
I hope someone will post those clips mentioned earlier of Simons work. I am no great personal fan of Simon Shack, but one cannot reject all of Simons work. It isn't important what you or I disagree with about his work, what is important are the gems Simon found and discovered all on his own, and the things which are obvious and incontrovertible. Jason says he has watched more footage then 99.99 % of the people on the PLANET, a fairly loud and boistrous bellow of self congratulatory fluids. Now, knowing what I know, when listening to people like Bermas, I now listen only for this; Are they ignorant, or are they lying? And in this case I believe one can tell Jason is lying all the way through. If everything in September Clues is bullshit, then why doesn't he let the guy talk about it without shouting him down and allowing him to hang himself? Jason then says; "These people have families, I think this is more then a little insulting..." Well, maybe. Maybe not. Case in point: Barbara Arestegui Well, some of them had families perhaps, more than likely, but many were fake and without siblings or family. Sad as it might sound. Larry and I haven't published the story of Barbara Arestegui yet, but here is the skinny of what another member here, Julia, discovered regarding her; 1. That she had two homes, one of her own and one which belonged to her fiancee 2. That at one of the homes, it was nothing but an empty lot between two homes 3. The other address listed to her fiancee also did not exist [citation needed, Larry? Julia?] 4. Barbara had two phone numbers; This is another letsroll discovery, from Julia Address 1: 69 Emerald Ln Marstons Mills, MA 02648 (508 ) 428-0902 Address 2: 2500 N Van Dorn St Alexandria, VA 22302 (703) 428-0902 5. When Julia called the 703 number the person answered; "Air Force Aide" She asked, and the man informed her she was calling the Pentagon. No less then a dozen and a half people here at the forums called the number after I shared it with them. They all got the same thing as Julia, as did Larry and I; "Air Force Aide" Pentagon... 6. When Larry and I called the number again before our last show with Fetzer to double check it for use on the show for call to the number, it was now disconnected. 7. Kawika sent in a FOIA to the Pentagon regarding this number; (703) 428-0902 Two months has passed, 45 days over the deadline, and the Pentagon has failed/refused to answer the FOIA and all supplemental followups. 8. Julia discovered strong evidence that Barbara Aresteguis fiancee, a Doctor in psychology or similar, doesn't exist. 9. That some of the people like Barbara Arestegui appear not to have families. 10. If Barbara's 703 # went back to the Pentagon, and her 508 # is identical except for area code, who do you guys thinks that 508 # belongs to? So we see that some of the victims of 911 didn't have any families, lived in open fields, have phones which connect to the Pentagon when called, and have imaginary fiancees. This is all 100% provable except for the imaginary fiancee. [additional research and citations needed]  Barbara Arestegui is on the right Barbara Arestegui is one of the flight attendants who was called in for duty last minute. 49% of all flight crew that day were not scheduled to fly on 9/11. Barbara was one of the 49% who wasn't scheduled. Thus when Jason Bermas says this is an insult, that these people have families, he is wrong first off, and lying secondly. Because from all we know about poor old field dwelling Barbara, whose phone number belongs to the Pentagon, is that she lived in a field, was engaged to an imaginary delusional fiancee, who was a doctor and ran an imaginary practice which doesn't exist, who also lived in a field, flew on an imaginary plane, on an imaginary flight which never took off, and crashed into a hollow tower which had no floors or people in it. Other then that the story checks out fine. Conclusion & Opinion: Jason Bermas is lying, and not ignorant,. And Jason Bermas is part of the Criminal Network; Cheers- Phil  __________________
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Re: Jason Burmas On Fake 9/11 Victims (gatekeeper)!
Bermas is wrong in categorically rejecting this line of research.
The CIA merged the lives of two men together as part of a false defector program. There were actually two men who shared the identity of Lee Harvey Oswald. Google "Harvey and Lee" by John Armstrong. They even had nearly identical looking mothers! One was over six feet tall and the other under six feet tall, If the CIA could do something like that back in the fifties, whose to say they couldn't create hundreds of merged and faked identities today? In fact, I'd bet it would be a cinch for them to do it.  __________________
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Re: Jason Burmas On Fake 9/11 Victims (gatekeeper)!
Bermas, like his handler, is also a business man. September Clues is a film in Bermas' small market. Obviously he is gonna trash it. But man, what a lame job of trashing it he did.
Like it or not, SC's has "facts" that cannot be disputed. The strongest of which, the "nose out" shot, is undoubtedly the nose of a "plane". The fact Bermas picked that out is further evidence of his gate-keeping. |
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You don’t know nothing about 9/11. And you make so much money of it; the money you make out of this stuff and you still think your top dog. But @ the of the day Simon and I have already have done the research to sweep it out from under your feet. Don’t ever Claim and quote : “I have seen more 9/11 footage than like 99.9% of people on this planet” DON’T EVER CLAIM THAT. Even if you have. Does it make you an expert? Phil Jahan and I and a few of the crew here have seen a whole heap more. Here Jason… In fact I back my claims up... You claimed that the twin towers feel in a free fall rate @ a rate of 10.45 seconds That is quoted in LOSSE CHANGE. But your wrong dude… It actually fell in 18 seconds!!!  What Jason… THE CNN LIVE SHOT (part1) RUN-UP TO COLLAPSE: • "Chopper camera" performs an 18-second zoom-in just prior to collapse start. • Two seconds after collapse initiation, the feed switches to "camera 2". This fact alone must ring an alarm bell in any rational mind: what are the odds for this to occur? Did the "chopper cameraman" anticipate the collapse by sheer luck, zooming-in just in time to catch its start? Did the producer then - with Superman vision & reflexes - decide to switch the feed to "camera 2" within two seconds - perhaps for more 'drama'?... You can’t even count the correct collapse speed Jason...IT WAS 18 seconds not 10.45 as you claim in loose change so don’t get all 9/11 on us. Quote:
Am I wrong… DEBUNK IT.  Quote:
The 9/11 Fox Five “LIVE” Visual Simulation. Introduction. After 3 short zoom in, the footage shows A black silhouette of a plane enter the shot. “You see the plane actually pierce the building and virtually came out of the other side.” Anon Quote.  You just saw an aero plane crashing into the South tower, yet you may agree that any plane will not crash through a steel building. Emerging the other side with its nose intact. – Quote Simon Shack. Nose in- The silhouette nose cone is visible in this frame.  Nose out- The silhouette nose cone “emerges” on the other side of the building.  The Scenario to pull of fakery of this would have needed the object to hit the building previously. Then put on a fake featuring a plane. A time delay of 17 seconds was aired on 9/11. A scenario as this... The camera shoots, the world trade centre with normal BLUE sky. As a background.  It films a missile hitting the trade centre.  The Blue Sky and Missile are washed out.  The BLUE Sky is replaced with luma key and contrast.  The reference line is the lens centre. It is not meant to exceed that line.  It needs to take aim, at its reference point. In this case it is the edge of the trade centre to avoid the “Emerging” on the background of the shot.  Plane Enters shot and reference line is in correct position.  But The Chopper 5 camera unexpectedly drifts to the left. The Reference or Masking point which is located on the lense centre. Now Drifts to left now exposing it on the outside of the trade centre.  So the Nosecone Re-emerges on the other side of the tower.  In fact it is not emerging it is following the background. It visually bumps into its own layer limit. And the Blast pixels which really do emerge from the Trade Centre engulf the animation.  I want to make a note On The above shot. This total proof of airplane animaion fakery, as you can see the animation bump into The player mask. Here is the comparison. Contrast Added. Here a bump map is applied to achieve a usable comparrison.  And it comes back as idetical. Both Hieght, Width, and various micro charectorictics such as micro “dents” are a match. In both of these comparrisons.  So we can assume it can only be a airplane animation. Also When we rewind the tape it should have been in the shot but it is not.  As soon as this evidence was first released back when September clues uncovered the nose out animation. The fox 5 footage was imiedtiely ripped of YouTube fox 5 as using a copyright claim.  And the Live FOX Archives have been replaced with a never seen version that obscures the nose out.  All material I used to explain the footage was found on these Videos created by September Clues.Info I recommend watching them right now. Quote:
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As if on cue. The Two Firemen and the plain clothed man look up.  Perhaps one of these was seen... Jassm Missile And replaced with a seriously bad graphic overlay plane animation which was inserted later. Flight 11 CGI Compared With a real Boeing 767.  Main impact with an explosion on the top floors within a faction of a second.  Explosion on west face, and south face 20 stories below, and top story smoke.    Ejection of Top Floor smoke during the first 9/11 hit! But look the plane is not there yet. Analyze this photo and and notice that the top 1/3 of the trade center's exterior on the left is completely unscathed! To the right of the impact hole the façade is not yet damaged with an alleged airplane hole.  Explosive charges now fire up several meters from the primary explosion. As you can see, the area I highlighted will become part of the plane's wingtip hole.  Now they are carving out a hole in the shape of a Boeing's Fueselage.  Look how much of the Boeing hole has been carved out coming from the opposite direction. It still hasn’t reached the primary fire.  Secondary shape charges were used to make the shape of a plane.  Part 2 Now Lets look at what else happened 6 seconds after impact. There is an impact hole carved out. There is no gash on the side. But a few short seconds later there is a wing gash photo shopped on the right hand side. Have a close look at this photo. The film editors have photo shopped a longer wing gash in.  It appears the Naudet Brothers estimate that the plane's hole of 130 feet across was too short...  So, they photo shopped in a wing gash to make it bigger to 160 feet...  But they should have just left it as it was, because networks showing live footage show no extended gash at all.   Tricky, Tricky Naudet Brothers... By the way where exactly are those brothers doing these days?Quote:
     In between the fueselage and left engine the plane has pierced the building yet has not yet made the hole!!!  This is of course representive of a pixel crash. FUX OF JASON>>> you dont know 9/11 like we do and you feed a pack of lies!! Last edited by EquinoX; 18 Nov 2010 at 06:36 AM. |
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Re: Jason Burmas On Fake 9/11 Victims (gatekeeper)!
Yep,,you have to scrutinize everything now,,and I am glad there are people who can point out when they,,,,,"Wag the dog"....
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Re: Jason Burmas On Fake 9/11 Victims (gatekeeper)!
Hello All,
It was always eerie to fathom a hijacked plane flying into the WTC and two at that. What is even more eerie is to think that digital graphics were involved but Shack's film makes it impossible to turn our heads at that. The plane literally melts into the building. And no matter how hollowed out the tower was, that just isn't possible. It is a shame that Bermas is so quick to dismiss everything in September Clues. He says that the nose in/nose out situation is not that but instead debris from that floor being pushed out onto the other side. Thank you Equinox because even after seeing the entire film, I did not notice the animation bump. The fade to black right at the nose out part (I believe black screen was on every or almost every news channel at the same time?) according to Bermas, is a power outage and not a cover up. I find that argument of Bermas hard to believe. I wonder if there's a way to know for sure? What's also interesting on the Fairbanks footage (I'm sure this has already been pointed out) is that the gentleman in the frame does not look up at the "plane" hitting the tower until after it has gone completely into the building and there has been an explosion. It's the explosion that gets his attention. If you were right where he was you would definitely be looking up earlier because of the noise of a plane flying so low and so fast. I also apologize if this has already been pointed out and feel free to delete me if it has but with regard to the Elizabeth Wainio photo (black and white doubles) and the black and white photo that has the objects on the shelf, I'm pretty sure that's a door and not a shelf as there appears to be no depth. It really looks as if flat objects were just painted in to make it look like a cupboard unless I need glasses. I went to elizabethwainio.com and there is one new colored picture of her that I've never seen before on the picture gallery page. http://www.elizabethwainio.com/main/pix.cfm  As for the rest of the pictures, it says: coming soon. Coming soon? It's been ten years!! Sorry if I'm going all over the place but wanted to mention one last thing. I find the SSDI info very interesting with regard to the victims. I do not know much about the SSDI but that it claims to be 90% accurate. My father died a year ago and is already in it though. Good reads!  Last edited by Phil Jayhan; 10 Mar 2011 at 03:47 AM. Reason: added picture; |
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Welcome to Lets Roll NIK.Your first post was pleasant and very observant.Hang around and get to know us a little.Join us in chat.Plenty of info on about any subject your curious about.
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No one questions that the government and these idiot media personalities seem to have no problem being suspected mass murderers but anyone mentions the total obvious that the pictures are duplicated, sometimes twice in the same letter of the alphabet, and suddenly they turn into stupid idiots who will not tolerate "outrageous conspiracy theories".
Phil you only have the G's on this site and look how many times those people are used to play the roll of two or more differently named victims?! I haven't even began to compare the other letters of the alphabet! It took me five minutes to figure out what the thread do you see anyone familiar in the victims photographs! It's obvious that the only Truthers out there who attack this evidence are the ones who stand to lose the most because of it, possibly even their freedoms, definitely millions in dollars, and all of what respect or integrity they ever had. I found this forum in the nick of time, because I was to the point of giving up on ever trying to find out the truth since it seemed everyone was leading the real truth seekers around by the nose and going no where! Thank God I never wasted anymore time than it took to watch that paper bag video that whats his name, that Jesuit from Texas who has the prison planet blog, filmed at Bohemian Grove. I never did trust that guy. It wasn't until I came here and found the research that you and and the senior forum members have found that I finally started to see that its not so complicated, the truth never really is. How many times have we found the truth right in front of our faces all along and we just couldn't see it because we were being led around by liar who was hiding the truth? Or in this case the liars! Everyone's been cheated on or seen someone they knew go through it. When they do finally clue in what's the first thing they say? God. I was such an idiot to trust that person, God why couldn't I see the obvious?! The truth is usually so simple it can be hard to see unless you want to see it. I can understand being a little bit confused by certain things. For me its the NIST pictures of the posters of the missing. There are phone numbers on them and I have to wonder who's numbers they were, that is something that still bugs me, but its only a question I haven't found the answer to, its not for me evidence that the victims who were obviously duplicated and faked actually existed. And as far as this shit about "they had family members". Really? Where are they? Can they not defend their loved ones victims on their own? Do they need some radio personality or newscaster to say shame on you to anyone who questions their death, or better yet their total existence? My God, if I had a loved one who died in the towers that day, and I found this website, I'd be plastering every baby picture, birth certificate, diploma any proof I had to shut you people up and tell you all to go to hell! But that's not happening. We've heard about a handful of family members and that was in the beginning. To me they (mama Beamer and wife Beamer) are the real pond scum. I kind of doubt if Todd Beamer ever existed at all. How hard is it to make up a fake marriage certificate and splice some pictures together? I think the victims were never born they are totally made up. The reason is, is because the Social Security Death Index can't report a social security number as being inactive if it was never active to begin with! The 93 bombing only lists 1 of the 6 who were killed in the social security death index. That was almost 20 years ago! They aren't that slow! Those people never existed and most of those 3000 who "died" in 2001 were never born therefore never issued a social security number. I'll bet my own social security (that's a joke) on it. Obviously this clip got me a little fired up.  But thanks for posting it. |
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