KP

Terral theorised :-

That explains it all - nothing to see here folks.

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13. Why did the NIST investigation not consider reports of molten steel in the wreckage from the WTC towers?

"The condition of the steel in the wreckage of the WTC towers (i.e., whether it was in a molten state or not) was irrelevant to the investigation of the collapse since it does not provide any conclusive information on the condition of the steel when the WTC towers were standing."

Ahh, the power of words .....

Jack A. Lope

Whats all this bull shit about? It's giving me a headache. So stop it! The very last thing I want to do is listen to any more of this childish back and forth bickering. The light poles could have been dropped from Mars for all I care, because by the time the lot of you get done with it no one is going to want to hear the facts. One way or the other. So if any of you are true to this cause put your petty grievances behind you and stop playing into "their" game. This type of behaver will only serve to defeat the movement. Any and all participants in this type of behaver are suspect in my eyes. This thread is starting to stink of PSYOPS. All the text book traits are present in this one thread. So, Terral and Lyte Trip unless you two are tag teaming us kiss and make up or be gone.

You smear enough shit on the truth no one will go near it and the only thing that will matter is how deep and how soon it gets buried so it will no longer offend the senses of the public in general. After it is buried any one who attempts to dig it up will be met will anger and hostility.




No patience for this bull shit.
Jack

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Merc Mercy

Then why don't you goddamn people use your brains for once, and we wouldn't have to be in here "smearing shit".

Look, we went there. We are the motherfucking authority on the Pentagon. We shouldn't even be debating.

But that's all you motherfuckers around here do is debate, stare at photos, and create theories while u pat each other on the back. You don't want the truth, you want a social club with a lot of one-upping.

Then we have to deal with people like Jack here, who likes to tell us how it is yet never stepped foot in Arlington and spoke with witnesses. Yet we are the ones "smearing shit", by trying to steer you away from it. We are trying to explain what the fuck happened at the Pentagon, but people are too fucking stupid, apathetic, too goddam eager and happy to create new theories, like this asshole Terral, whatever the hell he is-to even get it. He stinks of cointel and is utilizing every tactic in their book.

Hey I got an idea, how about you all just shut the fuck up about what you think happened at the Pentagon and let the people with the balls and brains to go out there and compile data and handle it. You should all just sit back and learn, or help by actually going out there and providing a conclusive analysis or comprehensive details. Why don't you ban people like Terral? Why not? Because theories are dangerous. Bad misleading information is dangerous. Because he doesn't know what he is talking about and is presenting shit informaton while slandering true patriotic researchers like myself and my partner.

ThePentacon.com bitches...

...if you didn't know-NOW YA KNOW!

Yeah I am an asshole. Abrasive. "Brash". You don't like it? Then get the fuck off your ass and do something about it. Go out there and interview witnesses, bystansders, firemen, victims. Do something. Just because you don't like us or the way we do things, doesn't make us wrong. If you choose to not listen cuz we're not holding your hand and talking to you in a sweet soft whisper-cuz I am brash or abrasive or an asshole., then you are an ignorant traitor. A goddamn imbecile. A lazy, cowardly waste. I WILL force this research/evidence through the fog of stupidity/igorance here and everywhere else. I WILL NOT let pieces of shit like Dylan Avery, Russell Pickering, or Terral stand in the way of truth that myself and my partner put our names and lives on the line to obtain.

Phil Jayhan

Merc,

Does this include everyone here & me as well? We are all nothing but a bunch of scumbags? Motherfuckers? What the hell Merc? Is this what friendship means to you? Is this the way you treat friends? Nice!

cheers-
phil

And tone down the language could you please? It really doesn't help your arguments and works against people listening to you. The reason we are all so worthless Merc, is we are all probably "dirty Jews" right? Let me guess, we are a "Zionist Hive" of dirty Jews, right?

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Merc Mercy

Relax Phil.

Did you see your name included in there? If the description fits, then you should be worried.

You accurately portrayed me when you defended me against Terral, and I appreciate that.

Can't we just get people to stop and think? Look at the amount of nothing that has been accomplished in this Pentagon section.

The only thing good to come out of this forum here is that it made me realize we weren't going to get ANYWHERE without actually going out there and investigating the crime ourselves and reconstructing it.

You have the north side approach. That is THE FIRST definitive smoking gun that can be made a forced issue. Don't you understand this?

You should all be calling your gov't reps about this. Instead we have to sit and wade through threads with people coming up with more bullshit theories and pieces of shit like Terral throwing dirt on our names.

I am frustrated Phil. I am tired of this uphill battle and I am ready to start calling people out on their bullshit publically, aggressively, and LOUDLY.

People should stop talking about what they "think" happened at the Pentagon and run with the north side of the Citgo approach, as it is the only definitive piece of smoking gun evidence we have. THEY CAN'T MOVE A PLANE. THEY CAN'T TELL WITNESSES WHO ARE PROVEN TO BE THERE THAT THEY WERE WRONG ABOUT SOMETHING THEY WEREN'T EVEN THERE TO WITNESS THEMSELVES.

They are scared, they want this issue to go away or be eclipsed or be deflected or all of the above.

I am sorry for the outburst..it ain't the first and it certainly ain't gonna be the last.

Phil Jayhan

Lets talk later Merc on the phone. I can share with you why this is going nowhere. And it isn't because we lack any smoking guns. But this thread has got to be taken back to a civil level. Period. And that means you and everyone else here. I'll be damned if I am going to allow this to become a Lebanon fighting field like the LC forums. Everyone here is civil with each other 99.999 % of the time, and thats why this thread needs to take a turn for the better. Too much good research to lock it.

So lets talk later, and share whats happening Merc. Before it spirals out of control.

We are all frustrated. Not just you.

cheers-
phil

And comments like this appear to be all inclusive, and would seem to include me and everyone else. You painted this entire forum as worthless, and there is more good people here than any other forum I know of. And I take offense to comments like this because is all it will do is create a fighting atmosphere, something which we don't have here now...

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trueblue

Merc, I sympathize with your frustration, and agree it's time we all stopped being politically correct with the asshole perpetraitors and their ignorant followers!
As I recall, Phil very early on notified EVERY government agency tasked with criminal investigations, and found out they were worthless. (Well, worse than that,complicit!) After years of research, he knows why.

Even though I don't believe the light poles were knocked down by airplanes, it doesn't matter! Like the retired General in "Ripple Effect", I look at the hole in the Pentagon , and look at the plane that was said to have made it, and think, IT DOESN'T FIT!
There is nothing in the photographic evidence available to us all that corroborates the official story.

These officials you want us to contact already know this (if they don't, they're not smart enough to have gotten elected in the first place!)
Where are you going to go with the truth of your investigation? The courts? Good luck.

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Merc Mercy

Yeah, perhaps you should. Oooor...we could just let you, Ethan Hunt, jdyolam, Terral, and who the hell ever theorize our way to the truth and justice. Yeah that should work, it's worked so well for the past 6 yrs.


Sure no need for discussion. Unless it is about the evidence related to the plane being on the north side, not looking like an AA, pulling up over the highway, and presumably flying away from the Pentagon. You want to help? Discuss how to find more witnesses and then find them. Discuss how we can figure out how they exactly planted the poles. Sure. Ask questions, propose ideas-but ideas and questions that center around the evidence that is outstanding and the most conclusive.

Isn't it? People just don't like hearing the truth. It hurts.

I am that guy who always tells you like it is. I am that guy who keeps his mouth shut and lets the bullshit run it's course, then when the time is right erupts when it is time to put stop to it.

The fact is, the LC boys, their forums members, your forum members are comfortable with the social club setting-the logging on to see the newest dirt or rumors are. To see if something has broke yet. To see if there is another CIA agent saying the 911CR was shit. To see if someone else is going to save them, instead of saving themselves.

What about Craig? He didn't do shit to deserve being banned. In fact, we are two opposite ends of the spectrum. No doubt, i will catch wreck from him for this little outburst. Craig is calm, cool, and collected and doesn't fly off the handle the way I do, yet he was systematically suppressed, and subsequently banned over there. Was it because of his "etiquette"? Nope. In fact, they can't even give him a reason other than to say they support Lloyd over the evidence of the north side.



I could. Will it stay that way? Doubt it.



Ha! I don't even care, Phil.

Every person in the "truth movement" could read my argument, watch it on the DVD, see video of the plane on the north side, interview Lagasse, Brooks, and Robert themselves and they still wouldn't listen. They'd go back to arguing about WTC7 and pushing bullshit info like hijackers being alive.

Anger is motivational, controversy is a vehicle. If I tell you something enough, you will do something about it. No matter how much you dislike me. And to stop listening to me, because you dislike me or the way I am talking to you is tantamount to treason.


Oh please Phil. Am I an anti-semite Phil? Where is your evidence for that Chief?

Merc Mercy

I just had to respond to that line by line, Phil.

We can chat later.

Phil Jayhan

Its a waste of time trying to talk to you Merc. A total waste of time. Do me a favor and go elsewhere, because none of us need this type of shit and outbursts from anyone here. Take a hike and piss off, and take your attitude with you. You will ruin every single thread that you become a part of because of your arrogance and shitty attitude.

Find another forum please!

And consider our "friendship" terminated.

cheers-
phil

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