New Photo of 767 Showing 2nd Piece of Equip / Port Engine

Phil Jayhan · 20 Jun 2004 , 19:32 PM

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Click this link to see the original photograph in it's original size as well as a blowup!

http://www.mistakesweremade.com/2ndT...iginalSize.jpg

And A Der Spiegel magazine cover from July of 04... (same photo)

http://img58.exs.cx/img58/8802/Spiegel.jpg

The photograph above was taken from New York Magazine, September 24th, 2001 issue.

Notice the strange similarities. And remember, the pod on the above craft which hit the 2nd WTC, has a similar pod, which they of course were trying to camoflage, by placing it off-centered on the wing-root. The above photgraph is of a 4 engine, E-8C with a JSTARS pod on it's fuselage. It could have been one of these, or it could have been one of the smaller units, perhaps an LDT/Laser Detector Tracker, which are smaller in size....

http://www.airforce-technology.com/p...x.html#jstars1

This picture was obtained by me and Deb Simon during one of my many trips to Ground zero, hosted by Deborah Simon of Connetticut, and also a member of this forum. This was one of the purposes of our trip, to get a feel of ground zero, it's buildings I only knew from photographs. And to obtain any new kind of evidence or proof for my work on 911, at the World trade Center. The funny thing about it is when the Chinese ladies, who have three tables set up at the stairs to the Financial World Trade Center, showed us the three 'Commemorative Photo albums' they have, there was proof of my work in all three of them, and this picture above and below, was a new piece of proof. Deborah Simon found the bomb on the far side of the aircraft on our Train ride home that night. Eagle eye Deb!

It not only shows the pod, off centered on the fuselage, and the new bomb, but we are now able to get pretty close to exact dimmensions as well as to show that the pod doesn't interfere with the landing gear well doors in the least. It starts just in front of them. And extends approximately 15-16 feet. the bomb seems to have the dimmensions of 12-14 feet, and perhaps 24-30 inches in diameter, with tapered edges, and more than likely extension mounts to secure it to the aircraft, insuring that it doesn't interfere with the forward wing slats, nor the rear wing Flaps. Notice also that this newly discovered piece of ordinace is situated as to end exactly where it would need to in order to maintain full wing flap and aircraft function. We have people at Northrop Grumman trying to identify the type of Military Ordinance this might be. This was from a High Quality Fuji film picture, printed on Fuji film, and made from a negative, and sold as part of a picture package at ground zero. I admonish all of you near ground zero to find those three chinese ladies with the tables at ground zero, by the Financial Center, and to purchase all of their photo albums, as they also clearly show the pod in on picture, and the immense size of the fireball in another. This one picture of the fireball shows it to be far larger than any of the pictures on the net.

Cheers-
Phil Jayhan

The only plane I have been able to find that will match this silhouette of this 'Psuedo Flight 175' thus far is a 767 and a 737. The 37 is too small but the 777-200 is just about right. Notice the engine casing and how forward it is of the wing in this very clear picture. On both engines! The casing on a 767, is much closer to the wing fronts...Just one of the areas of research as I and others try to find out what kind of plane this was...

Phil Jayhan · 20 Jun 2004 , 22:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enigs

Not to be a dick, but I can't see a bomb. Can you point it out for me Phil?

That's one hell of a photo, btw. Is this the one that was taken by the girls in Chinatown?

-Dylan

Sleepwalker is always asleep and isn't worth responding to;

But the bomb is located on the dark side of the aircraft, on the inside, right next to the engine. The pod is also clearly visible with this photo as well, and actual diommensions can now be figured. Your going to have to get irfanview if you don't have it; http://www.irfanview.com and play with this a little bit with different sizes. But it's there plain as day, and shouldn't be there! This plane must have taken off from the mouth of hell that morning.

cheers-
phil jayhan

20 Jun 2004 , 22:17 PM

I dont see anything abnormal either. See these pics;
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/068575/L/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/068574/L/

Phil Jayhan · 20 Jun 2004 , 23:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlac4e

I dont see anything abnormal either. See these pics;
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/068575/L/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/068574/L/

dlac,

Don't know what to say, but as an acquaintence, and all due respect, your blind;

That pic shows the pod, it's dimmensions, as well as the nifty little hide and tuck next to the wing, and it is a bomb. Your going to blow this up at different levels.

cheers-
phil

RedPillNeo · 21 Jun 2004 , 00:34 AM

I see an asymmetric bulge on the bottom sunny side of the plane too... same place as the "Pod" in other shots. I realize the belly has bulges under the wings... but not like this.
I cannot conclusively say it is a bomb though, based on this one pic. But it is yet another shot of a suspicious anomaly on the plane-this refuses to die, outrageous as it may sound!

**californiamountainman** · 21 Jun 2004 , 00:35 AM

Just curious Phil but it certainly does appear that the engine on the right is mounted farther down the wing than the the one on the left.

**lotr9099** · 21 Jun 2004 , 00:36 AM

this is it? this is the main attraction? hmm, as far as showing the pod, that greyish pic does the best job of that. This pic doesn't show any pod, just the bottom of the wing connections. And the bomb? You mean that dark strip next to the engine? Thats the engine mount, not a bomb. Its just that the engine mount is both dark blue and in shadow and the sun reflecting off of the engine itself is lighting up the bottom of the wing a lil bit. The bomb is just the shadowed engine mount meeting the unpainted wing.

Heres some links to compare to:

This isnt UA but its a good pic to give an idea:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/308950/L/

Heres some UA jets:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/068575/L/

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/068574/L/

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/560834/L/

I wanna see all the pics you got. this aint the only 1 is it?

RedPillNeo · 21 Jun 2004 , 00:39 AM

Another look at the pic (with more careful reading of Phil's writing)
On the darker wing next to the engine, it looks like the same thing as on the other wing, but lit and shaded differently due to the angle.
The "face on mars" looks different when lit differently too-nothing like a face. Not to rain on the parade here, just being as objective as possible.

kaha · 21 Jun 2004 , 09:25 AM

A little comparison, here.

Pod location is consistant in both shots. The one on the left looks different through foreshortening, caused by the plane's angle in relation to the camera.
Both show a three dimensional, tubular object.

Not the wing root fairing.
Not a bay door coming open.
Not a part of the aircraft coming unglued through stress.

What is it?

**halflife78** · 21 Jun 2004 , 16:32 PM

After blowing the picture way up to a pixel level it looks like the "explosive device" on the wing was photoshopped in. There is a computer graphics artist major here where I work, tomorrow I will get him to look at the picture and see if it's been doctored or not. The device is also on the shadow side of the plane which is subject to alot more distortion that the light side would be which could cause the shape that seems to be there.

20 Jun 2004 , 19:32 PM	#1
Phil Jayhan Admin Join Date: 23 Feb 2004 Location: Middle Earth Posts: 22,824 Threads: 2784 Blog Entries: 28 Thanked 7,881 Times in 2,899 Posts	New Photo of 767 Showing 2nd Piece of Equip / Port Engine [web:75a88980de]http://letsroll911.org/phpwebsite/index.php?module=announce&ANN_user_op=view&ANN_id= 16[/web:75a88980de] Click this link to see the original photograph in it's original size as well as a blowup! http://www.mistakesweremade.com/2ndT...iginalSize.jpg And A Der Spiegel magazine cover from July of 04... (same photo) http://img58.exs.cx/img58/8802/Spiegel.jpg The photograph above was taken from New York Magazine, September 24th, 2001 issue. Notice the strange similarities. And remember, the pod on the above craft which hit the 2nd WTC, has a similar pod, which they of course were trying to camoflage, by placing it off-centered on the wing-root. The above photgraph is of a 4 engine, E-8C with a JSTARS pod on it's fuselage. It could have been one of these, or it could have been one of the smaller units, perhaps an LDT/Laser Detector Tracker, which are smaller in size.... http://www.airforce-technology.com/p...x.html#jstars1 This picture was obtained by me and Deb Simon during one of my many trips to Ground zero, hosted by Deborah Simon of Connetticut, and also a member of this forum. This was one of the purposes of our trip, to get a feel of ground zero, it's buildings I only knew from photographs. And to obtain any new kind of evidence or proof for my work on 911, at the World trade Center. The funny thing about it is when the Chinese ladies, who have three tables set up at the stairs to the Financial World Trade Center, showed us the three 'Commemorative Photo albums' they have, there was proof of my work in all three of them, and this picture above and below, was a new piece of proof. Deborah Simon found the bomb on the far side of the aircraft on our Train ride home that night. Eagle eye Deb! It not only shows the pod, off centered on the fuselage, and the new bomb, but we are now able to get pretty close to exact dimmensions as well as to show that the pod doesn't interfere with the landing gear well doors in the least. It starts just in front of them. And extends approximately 15-16 feet. the bomb seems to have the dimmensions of 12-14 feet, and perhaps 24-30 inches in diameter, with tapered edges, and more than likely extension mounts to secure it to the aircraft, insuring that it doesn't interfere with the forward wing slats, nor the rear wing Flaps. Notice also that this newly discovered piece of ordinace is situated as to end exactly where it would need to in order to maintain full wing flap and aircraft function. We have people at Northrop Grumman trying to identify the type of Military Ordinance this might be. This was from a High Quality Fuji film picture, printed on Fuji film, and made from a negative, and sold as part of a picture package at ground zero. I admonish all of you near ground zero to find those three chinese ladies with the tables at ground zero, by the Financial Center, and to purchase all of their photo albums, as they also clearly show the pod in on picture, and the immense size of the fireball in another. This one picture of the fireball shows it to be far larger than any of the pictures on the net. Cheers- Phil Jayhan The only plane I have been able to find that will match this silhouette of this 'Psuedo Flight 175' thus far is a 767 and a 737. The 37 is too small but the 777-200 is just about right. Notice the engine casing and how forward it is of the wing in this very clear picture. On both engines! The casing on a 767, is much closer to the wing fronts...Just one of the areas of research as I and others try to find out what kind of plane this was... __________________ Phil Jayhan 9/11 Blog \| Phil Jayhan.Com Video Host \| Frederick Bastiats Audio of "The Law"

20 Jun 2004 , 22:17 PM	#3
dlac4e Posts: n/a Threads: 130	I dont see anything abnormal either. See these pics; http://www.airliners.net/open.file/068575/L/ http://www.airliners.net/open.file/068574/L/

21 Jun 2004 , 00:34 AM	#5
RedPillNeo Privileged Join Date: 16 Jun 2004 Location: Los Angeles- future false flag target Posts: 912 Threads: 34 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	I see an asymmetric bulge on the bottom sunny side of the plane too... same place as the "Pod" in other shots. I realize the belly has bulges under the wings... but not like this. I cannot conclusively say it is a bomb though, based on this one pic. But it is yet another shot of a suspicious anomaly on the plane-this refuses to die, outrageous as it may sound!

21 Jun 2004 , 00:35 AM	#6
californiamountainman Reader Join Date: 2 May 2004 Location: California Posts: 80 Threads: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Just curious Phil but it certainly does appear that the engine on the right is mounted farther down the wing than the the one on the left.

21 Jun 2004 , 00:36 AM	#7
lotr9099 Reader Join Date: 8 Jun 2004 Posts: 54 Threads: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	this is it? this is the main attraction? hmm, as far as showing the pod, that greyish pic does the best job of that. This pic doesn't show any pod, just the bottom of the wing connections. And the bomb? You mean that dark strip next to the engine? Thats the engine mount, not a bomb. Its just that the engine mount is both dark blue and in shadow and the sun reflecting off of the engine itself is lighting up the bottom of the wing a lil bit. The bomb is just the shadowed engine mount meeting the unpainted wing. Heres some links to compare to: This isnt UA but its a good pic to give an idea: http://www.airliners.net/open.file/308950/L/ Heres some UA jets: http://www.airliners.net/open.file/068575/L/ http://www.airliners.net/open.file/068574/L/ http://www.airliners.net/open.file/560834/L/ I wanna see all the pics you got. this aint the only 1 is it?

21 Jun 2004 , 00:39 AM	#8
RedPillNeo Privileged Join Date: 16 Jun 2004 Location: Los Angeles- future false flag target Posts: 912 Threads: 34 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Another look at the pic (with more careful reading of Phil's writing) On the darker wing next to the engine, it looks like the same thing as on the other wing, but lit and shaded differently due to the angle. The "face on mars" looks different when lit differently too-nothing like a face. Not to rain on the parade here, just being as objective as possible.

21 Jun 2004 , 09:25 AM	#9
kaha Privileged Join Date: 30 May 2004 Location: Central Oregon, USA Posts: 2,791 Threads: 24 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	A little comparison, here. Pod location is consistant in both shots. The one on the left looks different through foreshortening, caused by the plane's angle in relation to the camera. Both show a three dimensional, tubular object. Not the wing root fairing. Not a bay door coming open. Not a part of the aircraft coming unglued through stress. What is it?

21 Jun 2004 , 16:32 PM	#10
halflife78 Reader Join Date: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 3 Threads: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	After blowing the picture way up to a pixel level it looks like the "explosive device" on the wing was photoshopped in. There is a computer graphics artist major here where I work, tomorrow I will get him to look at the picture and see if it's been doctored or not. The device is also on the shadow side of the plane which is subject to alot more distortion that the light side would be which could cause the shape that seems to be there.