New Witness to the No Power Statement comes forward (Debunked)

**Phasmatis** · 16 Sep 2010 , 04:08 AM

Breaking Snews (Snoozeable News) Everyone!

A second person has come forward claiming there was no power on the weekend of the trade center attack. Finally after 9 years they have a second person who can’t tell when it is the appropriate time to lie or how to lie that well for that matter.

Aside from the fact that if you look at Phil’s research and know that the towers were not functional you have a few other things to consider.
1) Why is it that only 2 people knew that the power was out at the trade center?
2) How could the Firefighters see their way around inside a completely darkened building?
3) How is it that none of the fire Fighters who went into the trade center reported there being no electricity?
4) How is it that the police who entered the building report that there was no electricity?
5) How come none of the people who were able to get out of the trade center report there was no power?
6) How were the people working that day with no power? That really must have hurt productivity.

This can go on but you can clearly see the obvious holes in the no power statements. They simply are not reflected by the evidence of the numerous tales from the survivors. Common sense clearly shows this “no power” statement to be exactly what it is, A Lie!
Original Link: http://world911truth.org/world-trade...1-power-downs/

NEW YORK — A new witness confirms the WTC power down on the weekend before 9/11.

Gary Corbett is a former employee of Fiduciary Trust Company International, a bank that occupied the 90th and the 94th to 97th floors of World Trade Center Two (the South Tower) and which lost 96 employees during the September 11 attacks. Corbett, who worked on the 97th floor, says there was a ‘power down’ on the week-end prior to September 11 for approximately 24 to 36 hours. During this period, he says, “there was a complete breakdown of security that weekend because of the power down.”

According to Corbett, the power down started on Friday night, at close of business and only came back on Sunday afternoon.

This corroborates the information by another former WTC employee, Scott Forbes who went public in 2004 to talk about this mysterious power down in the World Trade Tower 2. Forbes said they had been notified 3 or 4 weeks in advance by the Port Authority-NY/NJ about this power down and that it was “extreme and unprecedented.” He also said that “without power there were no security cameras, no security locks on doors and many, many ‘engineers’ coming in and out of the tower.”

“You have to understand how unprecedented the power down was. To shutdown all of our financial systems, all inter-related and with connections and feeds to may outside vendors and suppliers was a major piece of work. Additionally, the power outage meant that many of the ‘ordinary’ building features were not operating, such as security locks on doors, cameras, lighting, etc.”
—Scott Forbes, former WTC employee

Scott Forbes says he “sent emails and letters to the 9/11 commission and the Port Authority of NY/NJ, without response“. This ‘power down’ event has never been investigated by the 9/11 Commission. We leave it to you to judge whether this should have been investigated by the 9/11 Commission, or not.

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~~VonZolta~~ · 16 Sep 2010 , 06:05 AM

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**BeSkepticalOfAll** · 16 Sep 2010 , 06:14 AM

I assume the OP is using irony.

The assertion under discussion, of course, is that power was down in the WTC on the weekend before the attack, not during the attack and (alleged) rescue effort.

~~VonZolta~~ · 16 Sep 2010 , 07:17 AM

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**BeSkepticalOfAll** · 16 Sep 2010 , 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by VonZolta

Perhaps the line should read "on the weekend before the trade center attack.

Yes, of course. Obviously, no one is referring to a power outage under the debris!

The two speakers appear to be quite credible, and their stories basically match: a deliberate power-down of at least the south tower, from Friday night (9/7/01) to Sunday afternoon (9/9/01).

It is sad that Mr. Corbett is unable to put two-and-two together so as to realize that the power-down facilitated final preparation for the attack. Mr. Forbes does appear to realize this but carefully lets the listener draw his own conclusion.

Mr. Corbett does not even realize that, by his own words, he ought to have been in the tower working at the time of the attack. But because his supervisor called him to a meeting away from the tower, his life was spared. One gets the strong impression that his supervisor was told of the imminent danger, even if not its precise nature or cause.

If the OP is not being ironic, he is perhaps taking an overly dogmatic view of the recent hypothesis that the Twin Towers were "empty." We know, of course, that the towers still had plenty of traffic--at the very least, in the lobby, the observation deck, etc. Even if one subscribes to this new hypothesis, it is only reasonable that--again, at the very least--the few floors nearest the lobby, and the few floors nearest the observation deck, were still occupied.

**BeSkepticalOfAll** · 16 Sep 2010 , 09:31 AM

Mr. Corbett also does not consider the possibility that the disarray of his computer systems on 9/10, and on the morning of 9/11, was also deliberate: to hide the fact that all important data had been copied elsewhere and made live, so that their WTC office was now offline ("out of the loop"). This would neatly coincide with Mr. Corbett's own point of frustration: That his CEO immediately boasted that nothing and no one of importance was lost!

~~VonZolta~~ · 16 Sep 2010 , 13:39 PM

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**Phasmatis** · 16 Sep 2010 , 22:57 PM

Sorry I was under the impression he was saying the power was out During the attack as it was brought up in conversation that this is a counter to Phils hollow tower theory.

My mistake and my bad.

**Phasmatis** · 17 Sep 2010 , 00:27 AM

After finding out that I made a mistake in the time of the power outage I have come up with a new debunking of said premise. I still assert that this is still a lie and will explain why this true.

First let us examine the setting up of the charges in the building. This claim asserts that this is when they most logically they set up the charges to bring down the towers, but there is a simple issue with this theory. That issue comes about if you do not believe the Hollow Tower theory and to put it simply the building would have been dark as hell making it rather problematic to place all those demo charges around the building. This is an extreme concern when those charges need to be in specific and precise locations.

Yet even if they decided to tuff it out and still go about placing the charges under the cover of utter and complete blackness you have two further issues how to get away with it and why even bother.

The first comes when you look at the fact that even though this reportedly caused much chaos and a breakdown in security it never made any headlines. One could argue that they had it censored from all the outlets but this is a pretty hard one to censor from blogs, small presses, local news, and national news, newspapers, etcetera.

Yet let’s say the pulled it off and made sure no source of news reported on this “power outage” you run into a second issue. How do you shut everyone up? The trade centers had around 2500 occupants and who knows how many people coming and going to and from this building and yet no second or third hand sources?

No hot dog vendor talking about how his regular was telling him about how the building was out of power for the entire weekend making his job extremely difficult to do. No Wives, Husbands, Children, Aunts, Uncles, Parents, or any other second hand source; can attest that someone spoke to any of their family members telling them about the Trade Center power being out. How likely does it seem to you, that it is possible to shut up that many people about something that would have been considered so trivial?

Here is the second issue of this theory, why even bother? You own the building, you can get anyone in you want, and you have the security codes and everything you would need to pull it off, why would you want to draw attention or give a loop hole for you to have to explain later? From a planning standpoint shutting off the power seems an extremely unreasonable loop hole to create. Then again getting that much explosive set up pass that many occupants and comers and goers also seems hard to swallow too.

Then you some of the original points, how come there are only two people over all this time? The argument here is that we are to believe only two first hand sources without any second hand sources or third hand sources and no media coverage what so ever. That is a tall order for anyone to swallow.

Then you have productivity. How was any possible without the juice to run computers? To even see where the hell you’re going? To do all this and for two days in a row? Wow now that is an accomplishment that one can be proud of!

Clearly as you can see using common sense this story, this lie, falls apart but that is not all there is. As further research being done at Let’s Roll Forums continues and is completed on the Hollow Towers Theory (gaining ground), fake and made up victims, and many other strands of valuable research these statements of power outages will become extremely obvious and exposed to all as the lies they truly are.

~~lynx_land~~ · 21 Sep 2010 , 06:23 AM

To be fair weren't there other mentions too before Scott Forbes? I think in the original Loose Change there was a few quotes from people who escaped the WTC.

One went something like "They knew something was up, they had been evactuating us in the weeks before etc", or "Just last week they had evacuated us".

Scott Forbes story broke in 2004 but wasn't capitilised on until a bit later, but there definately were other mentions of at least evacuations (I know they aren't the same thing), at least a few.

I don't tend to believe the theories anyway, but I am confident there were at least two or three other quotes about power downs or evactuations. They were just text interviews from what I remember.

But it wasn't entirely the case that Scott Forbes was the only one. He was the first one to really come out with a kind of elaborate tale about it. But as I said I do remember at least 2 or 3 other quotes.

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16 Sep 2010 , 22:57 PM	#8
Phasmatis Academic Join Date: 2 Mar 2010 Location: Infinity Posts: 975 Threads: 502 Thanked 492 Times in 312 Posts	Sorry I was under the impression he was saying the power was out During the attack as it was brought up in conversation that this is a counter to Phils hollow tower theory. My mistake and my bad. __________________ The Speech http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkqWj0eC6yA "Ignore My saner half, he is a bit remorseful" "The State is the great fictitious entity by which everyone seeks to live at the expense of everyone else." Frederic Bastiat

17 Sep 2010 , 00:27 AM	#9
Phasmatis Academic Join Date: 2 Mar 2010 Location: Infinity Posts: 975 Threads: 502 Thanked 492 Times in 312 Posts	Second Round After finding out that I made a mistake in the time of the power outage I have come up with a new debunking of said premise. I still assert that this is still a lie and will explain why this true. First let us examine the setting up of the charges in the building. This claim asserts that this is when they most logically they set up the charges to bring down the towers, but there is a simple issue with this theory. That issue comes about if you do not believe the Hollow Tower theory and to put it simply the building would have been dark as hell making it rather problematic to place all those demo charges around the building. This is an extreme concern when those charges need to be in specific and precise locations. Yet even if they decided to tuff it out and still go about placing the charges under the cover of utter and complete blackness you have two further issues how to get away with it and why even bother. The first comes when you look at the fact that even though this reportedly caused much chaos and a breakdown in security it never made any headlines. One could argue that they had it censored from all the outlets but this is a pretty hard one to censor from blogs, small presses, local news, and national news, newspapers, etcetera. Yet let’s say the pulled it off and made sure no source of news reported on this “power outage” you run into a second issue. How do you shut everyone up? The trade centers had around 2500 occupants and who knows how many people coming and going to and from this building and yet no second or third hand sources? No hot dog vendor talking about how his regular was telling him about how the building was out of power for the entire weekend making his job extremely difficult to do. No Wives, Husbands, Children, Aunts, Uncles, Parents, or any other second hand source; can attest that someone spoke to any of their family members telling them about the Trade Center power being out. How likely does it seem to you, that it is possible to shut up that many people about something that would have been considered so trivial? Here is the second issue of this theory, why even bother? You own the building, you can get anyone in you want, and you have the security codes and everything you would need to pull it off, why would you want to draw attention or give a loop hole for you to have to explain later? From a planning standpoint shutting off the power seems an extremely unreasonable loop hole to create. Then again getting that much explosive set up pass that many occupants and comers and goers also seems hard to swallow too. Then you some of the original points, how come there are only two people over all this time? The argument here is that we are to believe only two first hand sources without any second hand sources or third hand sources and no media coverage what so ever. That is a tall order for anyone to swallow. Then you have productivity. How was any possible without the juice to run computers? To even see where the hell you’re going? To do all this and for two days in a row? Wow now that is an accomplishment that one can be proud of! Clearly as you can see using common sense this story, this lie, falls apart but that is not all there is. As further research being done at Let’s Roll Forums continues and is completed on the Hollow Towers Theory (gaining ground), fake and made up victims, and many other strands of valuable research these statements of power outages will become extremely obvious and exposed to all as the lies they truly are. __________________ The Speech http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkqWj0eC6yA "Ignore My saner half, he is a bit remorseful" "The State is the great fictitious entity by which everyone seeks to live at the expense of everyone else." Frederic Bastiat

16 Sep 2010 , 06:14 AM	#3
BeSkepticalOfAll Reader Join Date: 20 Aug 2010 Posts: 32 Threads: 4 Thanked 51 Times in 21 Posts	I assume the OP is using irony. The assertion under discussion, of course, is that power was down in the WTC on the weekend before the attack, not during the attack and (alleged) rescue effort.

16 Sep 2010 , 09:31 AM	#6
BeSkepticalOfAll Reader Join Date: 20 Aug 2010 Posts: 32 Threads: 4 Thanked 51 Times in 21 Posts	Mr. Corbett also does not consider the possibility that the disarray of his computer systems on 9/10, and on the morning of 9/11, was also deliberate: to hide the fact that all important data had been copied elsewhere and made live, so that their WTC office was now offline ("out of the loop"). This would neatly coincide with Mr. Corbett's own point of frustration: That his CEO immediately boasted that nothing and no one of importance was lost!

21 Sep 2010 , 06:23 AM	#10
~~lynx_land~~ Join Date: 27 Sep 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 506 Threads: 129 Thanked 618 Times in 160 Posts	Re: New Witness to the No Power Statement comes forward (Debunked) To be fair weren't there other mentions too before Scott Forbes? I think in the original Loose Change there was a few quotes from people who escaped the WTC. One went something like "They knew something was up, they had been evactuating us in the weeks before etc", or "Just last week they had evacuated us". Scott Forbes story broke in 2004 but wasn't capitilised on until a bit later, but there definately were other mentions of at least evacuations (I know they aren't the same thing), at least a few. I don't tend to believe the theories anyway, but I am confident there were at least two or three other quotes about power downs or evactuations. They were just text interviews from what I remember. But it wasn't entirely the case that Scott Forbes was the only one. He was the first one to really come out with a kind of elaborate tale about it. But as I said I do remember at least 2 or 3 other quotes.