I'm speaking of generational practitioners, of course. To speak of the mindset we would have to include those in traditional religion as well.

People who lack personal empowerment are found in every belief system on the globe. With the onslaught of the Wicca belief system 50 yrs. now (?), not to mention Scientology/other offshoots, many people fooled themselves into believing they didn't fall within the disempowering belief system of old world witchcraft.

So, I'm really just looking for # of generational practitioners VS those who've "fallen into it". I believed Observer may have an idea.

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The NWO have a clear policy - no internal members can exist other than through bloodlines. Therefore any outsider brought in is kept at a distance. I believe there are exceptions to this and the Rothschilds are the perfect example. Their gutless great grandfuckheadfather was so desirous of power he learnt who had it and how he could get his way in. Getting into the group back then was a lot harder than it is now. He figured out the money and saw a gap and jumped in. He bought his way into this murdering, incestuous, peadophilic, psychologically traumastised and sociopathic group of retards.

So, of the 200million odd members, I would guess 90% of them have been born into it. What a guess though - all I know is they apparently comprise 0.1-0.2% of our population. The end story being here - there are 6billion of us compared to a few million of them. Those of us working for them will soon come back and they will only have themselevs. They actually think people are that dumb. Little do they know that the dumbest child in class is not actually dumb - it is only perception. And their perception is not only old and full of cobwebs but it is full of blood, deceipt, incest, murder and child-murder-abuse.

They really are being the stupidest people of all time considering it is 2007. The dumb bully in school. Just how do you get a bully to stop being a bully? Get a bigger bully to help? We havent got one other so to speak. Seperate the bully until they want to be good? Impossible here. Get enough people to stand around calmly and wait for the bully to calm down and start to want to change on the spot. Now this idea could work.



There has been an increase in the use of the dark arts in the last 50 years? How did you come to this conclusion? Im not saying it's wrong but I know it's definately up for scrutiny. Anyway...back to the point.
Our population grows every year. Therefore by default, there is more of everything. I wasn't aware of this increase. We've had some very dark moment in our history - especially throughout the dark ages.

Being born into the Illuminati is a lot different from being born into a Wiccan clan for example. It has to be noted that many people have looked into the mysteries of life with love and care. Not everything occult is evil otherwise guns are evil too which we all know is rubbish. As people grow within themselves they will naturally begin to ask the legendary questions such as what is life, why are we here etc. There are many systems of belief in the world that provide answers to these questions and promote being kind to all as well as Christianity. In the old days this was as easy as knowing there are white witches and black witches. If people grow up outside the NWO and find their way inadvertently to the fringes of their group by joining a Satanistic clan or the freemasons, or a black-wiccan group, or a black-roscicrucian group, or in any way shape or form allow themselves to be controlled by their vices like this....then they have a long way to go. Patiently time will pass and all will return to the flock

The current administration is not an administration. It is a preassembled cast of manchurian candidates whom are directed by the advisor staff who are their superiors in their occult rankings. It is a ranked occult group. That is that. Too bad for the word occult but there's no denying their ritual abuse etc and if someone is a murdering football player...well football has to suffer the damage too. Yes the Whitehouse is a public face for the hidden face. The occult face. The occult ranks are what matter to them. That is why you will see a top leader apparently cower in front of a colleague of some sort. Or be VERY VERY VERY nice to them. Like when Hillary Clinton and many others are questioned by their colleagues. There is a laugh about them that shows us they meet outside their workplace and know each other very well. Often there is fear or admiration in their eyes at these times. They are scared to the bone. They have been ever since they were a baby and a giant adult pushed their erect penis into them.

These people are traumatised and sick as fuck. We need help from the healing community to advise on how to help change these idiots imo.

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I Like faust, Rothschild was so hungry for power that he sold his soul to the devil. I believe Rothschild was already a practitioner of the kabbala, and well versed in the ways of power. The Vatican not only got a clever money manager, but the perfect front for their takeover of the world.
Everyone knows the Rothschilds own the world, yet few stop to consider; who owns them?

I agree ! Except don't hold your breath waiting for them to get tired of the game, they THRIVE on it!!! the psychological profile of these people spells PSYCHOPATH. They are not normal,and should not be expected to act normal.

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Good point tb...at least we hold the trump cards so the game is ours anyway

Who are you referring to? The Illuminati?

I doubt the total number of members that are born into the Illuminati is over 10,000. There are the 13 original bloodlines and then the other families that have joined and interbred.

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Observer is bouncing back and forth from discussing wiccans and illuminati. The subject you quoted is a referrence to my belief that the use of the dark arts has grown in the past 50 years.

I've been checking this thread every now and again in interest, and happened to catch your post Chris.

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I guess I started something.

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Yep, that's how you are ... you rabble rouser! hehe

Actually, in my opinion, this is an interesting thread, and well worth my popping back and forth from it.

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The dangerous thing about these people (Illuminati) is not their wealth, power, but their mindset, or world view.
And there are MANY "ordinary" folks who share their mindset, with absolutely no knowledge of where this mindset comes from.

While I believe there are far more caring people than these psychopaths , their advantage is unbridled ruthlessness.

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I think you mean the mindset that has been given to them by the elite?

I don't think that I really understand the people behind this that much, I don't really know everything about this whole New World Order and the force behind it.

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