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Yeah,,,Mr baDildo
 ,,here says (vid 3),,they came out with hair on fire,,and smoke coming off their jackets...Thats straight out of the three stooges!! NYUCK_NYUCK... That only happens in cartoons,,and hollywood gag films... |
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We all know the "Harley Guy" was a plant, but, my God - how many fake witnesses did they employ/blackmail into this thing? Incidentally, I do not believe a single word this Bad dildo guy is saying.
This link explains the safety mechanisms built into most modern elevator systems - http://science.howstuffworks.com/tra.../elevator6.htm "Elevators also have electromagnetic brakes that engage when the car comes to a stop. The electromagnets actually keep the brakes in the open position, instead of closing them. With this design, the brakes will automatically clamp shut if the elevator loses power. Elevators also have automatic braking systems near the top and the bottom of the elevator shaft. If the elevator car moves too far in either direction, the brake brings it to a stop. If all else fails, and the elevator does fall down the shaft, there is one final safety measure that will probably save the passengers. The bottom of the shaft has a heavy-duty shock absorber system -- typically a piston mounted in an oil-filled cylinder. The shock absorber works like a giant cushion to soften the elevator car's landing." Are we to believe the most famous buildings in America contained elevator systems without these standard safety precautions? Another thing is that the local elevators carrying employees and visitors were staggered. That is to say, they did not go from the bottom of the towers straight to the top, but most (the longest) stopped somewhere near 1/3rd the length of the buildings  There is no way burning jet fuel from either of the impact zones could have poured down any of the passenger elevator shafts down to the level of the lobby because of the simple fact that those elevator shafts did no go up that high. Like so much of the official narrative, the elevator stories simply do not stand up to even the most casual scrutiny. Some people in this case are lying their asses off. There really is no polite way to put it. According to this USA Today article, each tower had only two elevators that went from the bottom straight to the top - http://www.usatoday.com/news/sept11/...tor-usat_x.htm "Passengers took non-stop express elevators from the ground floor to elevator lobbies on the 44th and 78th floors. There, they walked across a hall to smaller local elevators that went to higher floors. It could take five minutes to get from the ground floor lobby to the 105th floor. Each tower had only two passenger elevators that went non-stop from bottom to top — to the Windows on the World restaurant in the north tower and the observation deck in the south tower." __________________
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They put locks on the elevator doors in the 90s
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Yeah, why would they put in a safety mechanism that would actually lock people inside the elevators? And how did enough burning jet fuel pour down two express elevator shafts to blow off wall tiles and shatter all the glass in the ground floor lobby of the North Tower? It's bull.
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This really doesn't help their story either; I watch this and see poorly scripted writing and simple bad acting; What do you see?
This one seems pretty normal and unscripted except for the guy in the back of the elevator asking all the questions and showing exclamation. I have to listen again but it almost seems like its the same person, unfilmed in both elevators, which seems to be asking all the questions and leading the conversation; And here is another youtube of an elevator ride at WTC 2, South Tower; Nothing here, but it was there and we might as well review everything; __________________
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To tell you the truth, the first two vids do in fact seem kind of fake. Lots of exposition in the dialogue, like they were told to say things describing in explicit detail what was happening just in case anyone viewing failed to make the connection to the 9/11 "terrorist attack." Just my gut feeling.
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In that channel four documentary, Leslie Robertsons wife saw what She describes flight 175 as a red & blue plane.
George Sleigh tells his tales in the first part. |
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http://www.elevatorbobs-elevator-pics.com/wtc2.html
Just thought this may be of some use. Thanx to elevator bob for this site Regards Clive From a USA Today story dated May 17th, 2002 By Dennis Cauchon and Martha T. Moore See: "Machinery Saved People In WTC" Copyright 2002 USA TODAY, a division of Gannett Co. Inc. (Several images follow this story and are from the same source.) The 16 people who escaped the burning top floors of the World Trade Center's south tower owe their lives to an unlikely hero: a row of giant elevator machines that shielded one stairway from destruction. About 2,000 people were on or above the floors hit by two hijacked jets Sept. 11. USA TODAY has identified only 16 survivors from those floors. These survivors were all in the south tower. They all used the same stairway. And they all made it out because an enormous elevator machine room happened to be located on the 81st floor, where the nose of the jet hit. The machine room contained a dozen 24-ton elevator hoists, which pulled high-speed express elevators from the lobby to the 78th floor. The Otis Elevator 339HT machines were the largest in the world when they were installed three decades ago during the towers' construction. Lined up like a row of soldiers in front of Stairway A, the machines helped protect the stairwell. The elevator equipment room covered more than half the width of the 81st floor. Its size forced the tower's designers to route Stairway A around the machines. The detour moved Stairway A from the center of the building toward the northwest corner - away from the path the hijacked jet would take. Stairway A USA TODAY reported in December that Stairway A had remained open from top to bottom in the south tower, and about 15 people used it to escape from floors at or above the jet crash. Others went up the stairway in search of a helicopter rescue that never came. But it was unclear why Stairway A had been spared. The other two stairwells in the south tower were wrecked by the explosion. In the north tower, even the stairwells on the two floors below the impact were destroyed, trapping dozens of people who survived the impact. A close examination of architectural drawings, engineering plans and survivor stories reveals that the elevator equipment room played a key role in providing safe passage to those who took Stairway A. In the north tower, the first to be hit, the jet slammed into the center of the building at the 94th through 98th floors - well above the north tower's 81st floor elevator machine room. The jet's impact cut off all three stairwells, which, from the 83rd floor up, were grouped in the building's center. Everyone above the 92nd floor died. On the 91st floor, two stairways were destroyed; the third survived, and everyone got out. The second jet crashed at a sharp angle into the south tower 16 ½ minutes later, hitting the 78th through 84th floors and leaving only Stairway A for escape. The 16 survivors who went down Stairway A include:  Ten people who were in the north side of the crowded 78th floor elevator lobby, where people transferred from local to express elevators. Many people, perhaps 200, lost their lives when the explosion ripped through the lobby. The area was "packed worse than lunch or rush hour," said Judy Wein, a survivor whose arm was shattered. Two people at Fuji Bank on the 81st floor. The elevator machine room was between these survivors and the crash. Four people who were on the 84th floor. Three worked at Euro Brokers, based on the 84th floor, and another worked at Fiduciary Trust on the 97th floor. In the north tower, people just below the crash found themselves trapped because of damaged stairways. But in the south tower, Stairway A provided safe passage for 13 people on the 77th floor, just below the crash. "We tried the other two stairways, but they were gone," said Florence Jones of Baseline Financial. Each tower had three stairways labeled A, B and C. On most floors, the stairways were about 30 feet apart in the core with the plumbing, elevators and other infrastructure. The building was 208 feet wide. Stairway B went straight down, but stairways A and C left the core of the building twice to dodge elevator machine rooms: from the 76th through 82nd floors and the 42nd through 48th floors. On the 82nd floor, Stairway A emptied into a 52-foot long corridor heading north, atop the elevator machine room on the floor below. The passage went through two doors, then headed west for 15 feet, where the stairwell resumed. The stairway ran down that north side of the building until the 76th floor, where another passageway led back to the center. The detour around the 81st-floor elevator machine room proved to be a lifesaving coincidence when the jet struck the southeast side of the building. Nowhere in the tower was a stairway farther to the northwest than on the floors where it mattered most. Safe Passage Down Kelly Reyher, a lawyer who worked at AON Insurance, crawled out of a burning elevator on the 78th floor and over corpses to reach Stairway A. "There were no bodies or anything in the staircase," he said. Several male survivors cleared heavy debris from Stairway A between the 77th and 78th floor. After detouring through a door and down a corridor, survivors picked up Stairway A again in the center of the 76th floor. There, the lights were on and the air was fresh. Cut and bloodied by the jet's impact, Christine Sasser, who worked at Fuji Capital Markets, walked down Stairway A from the 78th floor with her badly injured colleague, Silvion Ramsundar. The 78th floor was dark, Sasser said, but the stairwell was lighted and the air quality fine. As a result, she had little idea of the extent of the death and damage on the floors above her. "You thought, 'This isn't that bad,' " she said. Jake Pauls, an expert in high-rise evacuations, said the trend has been to pack fire stairs tightly into a building's core so stairs don't consume leasable floor space. "We may be relying too much on sprinklers and not enough on keeping evacuation routes separate," he said. The elevator machine room also may have helped contain the upward force of the explosion, protecting Stairway A when it was in the building's center above the 82nd floor. To hold the 600,000-pound weight of the elevator hoists, the beams supporting the 81st floor were twice as big and four times as heavy as those on the 79th floor. Even the collapse of the two towers did not destroy the massive Otis 339HT machines. The machines were 8 feet tall and 13-feet-by-8-feet wide. Some were found intact in the wreckage at Ground Zero, still bolted to the specially reinforced beams that held them. Investigators at first mistook them for jet engines.  The Miracle of Stairway A - Image 1 Image provided by: USA Today  The Miracle of Stairway A - Image 2 Image provided by: USA Today  The Miracle of Stairway A - Image 3 Image provided by: USA Today  The Miracle of Stairway A - Image 4 Image provided by: USA Today Last edited by Phil Jayhan; 6 Nov 2010 at 17:05 PM. Reason: Archived article; |
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World Trade Center Otis 339HT Machines Return to elevatorbob's World Trade Center Return to elevatorbob's Elevator Pictures  Image 1  World Trade Center - Otis Elevator Company - 339HT Gearless Machine... Image "borrowed" from: Massachusetts Institute of Technology I know more!  Image 2  World Trade Center - Otis Elevator Company - 339HT Gearless Machine... Image "borrowed" from: Massachusetts Institute of Technology I know more!  Image 3  An intact Otis 339HT machine... Image provided by: Pablo Torres I know more! |
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