This is one great research and truly changed our perspective of thinking. I have gone half way through all the posts and was just tempted to reply.

There is a story (Source: unknown) my dad told me when I was young, and i'd like to share it with you.

"Once a scientist caged a few monkeys and placed some bananas on top of it. Every time a monkey would climb up to get the banana, water was thrown on all the monkeys. soon the monkeys had quit trying to grab the bananas. After a while, the scientist replaced one monkey. Now the new one did'nt know what was happening over there and was just tempted to go for the free bananas. When he started to climb the case, all other monkeys would scream and later on beat the crap out of the new monkey who did'nt know shit.

One by one, he replaced the old ones with the new monkeys till all the old one's got replaced.

The funny thing was that the monkeys still couldn't get the bananas. Every time a new monkey would come, try out for the bananas, all others would start beating him up without knowing WHY…”

I thank you for letting me out of the cage phil.

That sounds like the work of BF Skinner. Here is a link to a bio on Skinner. http://www.sntp.net/behaviorism/skinner.htm

Here is a piece from The Daily Mail (a UK publcation) that I thought was fitting.

Cheers
Jack (AKA Bad Monkey)


The shocking truth about how we will follow orders


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Most of us will inflict pain on a stranger when ordered to do so by a figure in authority, a study has found.
In an experiment designed to test the limits of obedience, four out of five will obey orders and give electric shocks to another person – even if their innocent 'victim' is crying out in pain.
The research, mimicking 1960s experiments by U.S. academic Stanley Milgram, examined why ordinary people were prepared to commit horrific atrocities in Nazi Germany.


Stanley Milgram, pictured here in the Seventies whilst doing research in New York, examined why ordinary people were prepared to commit horrific atrocities in Nazi Germany
It suggests that despite 60 years of progress, human nature is as weak and malleable as ever. The original Milgram experiments were carried out at Yale University from 1961.
Milgram gave volunteers a button and told them that it would give an electric shock to a student in the room next door.
If students failed to answer a question correctly, the volunteers were told to shock them. They were also told that each time the button was pressed, the shocks would get worse. In reality, the students were actors and the electric shocks were faked.
Milgram found 80 per cent of volunteers were prepared to give shocks at the highest setting. In the new version of the experiment, Dr Jerry Burger of Santa Clara University found obedience rates were almost identical.
The findings are reported in the journal American Psychologist. Milgram's experiments were so controversial they have rarely been repeated. The latest version is the first in more than three decades.

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Hey Phil,

What do you think the people are doing to that monument in the picture?

They are throwing stones at it... during the holy pilgrimage (called Haj) it is mandatory to throw stones at these monuments (as a symbol of HATRED). I wz a kid when I went there... It is called Shaitaan (i.e. Lucifer, the big devil)




Here is a picture of the Obelisk which is not coincidently at the center of the Muslim faith. This is at Medina, Saudi Arabia. This is once again, the Phallus of Osiris or Nimrod. Can anyone else see the strange similarities here? Can this be chalked up to coincidence? How many coincidences will it take before it becomes something more than a strange string of coinkidinks? The Muslim Religion was created by the Vatican, in an attempt to rally the Turks under a false religion which they control, and for them to take Jerusalem and hand it over to the Vatican, one of the top goals of the Vatican, their Zionist agenda.

Also notice how nearly every "obelisk" is in the center of an oval or a circle; The Female phallus. This is not a coincidence either.

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I did not know that. Now I do.

Stoning the Devils winkie. What will they think of next? Wouldn't it be more effective to go for the root and just whack his winki off?

OK not the best choice of words but a lesson could be learned in the actions of one Lorena Bobbitt. Nip and tuck.

One thing that hasn't changed over the many years is the legend of size. I guess it just depends on who you are asking but apparently Osiris was either hung like a mule, like in D.C. or like a mouse, like in ....I think you get my point. (see picture above)


Cheers
Jack

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Well, muslims throwing stones at this osiris monument establishes the fact that they know its satanic and preaches to be careful, which is good as we know what this osiris monuments all over the world represent and only one religion, i.e islam understands...
There is a legend in muslim teachings that a "dajjal" (one eyed monstor... Figuratively maybe) will come to earth and shall offer all mankind to accept him as god, with harsh consequences for those who don't.
This same thing was researched by phil...
Muslims are taught to strengthen their faith to our God almighty in the event of this time which will indeed come, muslims also strongly believe that after all this, our jesus will be sent back to earth for the mankind and to defeat dajjal...
I'd like to go in detail here but maybe i'd sound a bit anxious to advocate my beliefs so i'd await your comments...
Regards,
Faraz Javed

I looked for a picture of this once and couldn't find it. Muslims don't seem to want outsiders see details of the hajj.
No wonder muslims call the US the Great Satan when we have a much larger version of this in our capital.

No, its not like that...To muslims, "what USA does is Satanic" and there is no lie in that, you all know how bad it has been for muslims all over the world after 911...some non-muslim factions (claiming to be muslims, you know the names) were blamed for the attacks and the muslims all over the world took the heat... but muslims work in USA, call it home etc.

As a matter of face, muslims are quite open, its all there...you can see all the pictures, you can get all the details of haj on the internet.

As a citizen, we are not permitted to enter certain restricted areas
like the cantonment. Only the authorized people enrolled in the military or those who are connected with the defence of the country are allowed in that area. Islam is a Universal Religion for the entire world and for all human beings, the main areas of Islam are the two holy cites of Makkah and Madinah. Here only those who believe in Islam and are involved in the defence of Islam i.e. the Muslims are allowed.

It would be illogical for a common citizen to object against the restriction on entering a restricted area. Similarly it is not appropriate for non-Muslims to object against the restriction on non-Muslims against entering Makkah and Madinah.

some more examples:

Whenever a person travels to a foreign country he has to first apply for a visa i.e. the permission to enter that country. Every country has its own
rules, regulations and requirements for issuing a visa. Unless their critera are satisfied they will not issue a visa.

One of the countries which is very strict in issuing a visa is the United States of America, especially when issuing visas to citizens of the third world. They have several conditions and requirements to be fulfilled before they issue a visa.

On the immigration form of many countries they warn of "death to drug traffickers". Now, if you wanna go there, you gotta abide by the rules. (Don't even want to comment on the nature of the punishment). Now, if you agree with their requirements and conditions you'd be permitted to enter that country.

The Visa – The primary condition required for any human being to enter Makkah or Madina is to say with his lips, La ila ha illallah Muhammed ur Rasulullah meaning that ‘there is no God but Allah and Muhammed (pbuh) is His Messenger.

I'm in the process of writing a response that is building into more than I can construct at this late hour (4:00 Am) with out wandering off in some disconnected manner so I will leave this in it's place until later. After I get some sleep I will finish what I started and I will edit it in here. So check back tonight.

I do appreciate your sense of respect and hope that no one here will be less than courteous to you in return.

I know how these things can get off course and start taking on a life of there own when religious toes get steeped on and I hope that doesn't happen here. If it does try not to be to hasty. I will do what I can to see that it doesn't. There is a tremendous lack of understanding of Muslim culture here in America and that desperately needs to change. Most of us know little or nothing and what we think we know is usualy wrong and is mostly nothing more than propaganda that has been spread by people who thought for what ever reason it served American interests at any given time. I fail to see the logic behind American interests being better served by keeping Americans ignorant. I would hope that we put more value on opening the lines of communication between our two worlds. For they are not that far apart nor are they as different as we assume they are in our ignorance. I see us as both having a faith very similar to one another's and on its flip-side we also have a religion's that are very similar to one another. Mohammad and Jesus where both Prophets, they where both men with a very similar message, one of faith and assurance, they both taught tolerance, love and respect. At no time do they order any ones death.

Iatolas and Popes don't give any regard to the teachings of these men. They can't because they conflict. It comes down to a choice, (But doesn't it all ways though ?) The teachers or the preachers? God gave us all the very unique gift of cognitive thought that is the ability to think and decide things for our selfs. Thank you God. Free will is soul ownership of our own souls and that is the hippest, coolest, concept in the whole universe. We Our free spirits of mind and soul and no man may ever attach stings upon my soul nor they upon yours. We are free to explore our own relationships with God in any way we choose to do so openly and freely. So listen to what the teachers are trying to teach us would be my advice. For I would choose teachers over preachers any day. I refuse and refute any claim or notion by any man proclaiming to be holy and there for any church that bestows any such claim upon any man to be invalid and unworthy of my attention or support. When a church demands that you surrender or relinquish any of God's given gifts, they are asking for things they have no rights to.

Cheers
Jack

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What will happen when us "cattle" wake up and stampede the Illuminati.............

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This is taken from a OTO handbook of there highest "Illuminated Adepts". It would definitely appear that the Masonic high ups are into some seriously black behavior.

This is just one chapter in a book that you weren't supposed to have access to.

Cheers
Jack
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PART THREE
The Secret Instructions of the
Seventh, Eight and Ninth Degrees

*

OF THE HOMUNCULUS

A Secret Instruction of the Ninth Degree
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DE HOMUNCULO EPISTOLA
Baphomet X° O.T.O. Rex Summus Sanctissimus to all His Holy and Royal Brethren of the X° upon
earth, and to His Viceroys in all the Britains, Greeting and Peace.
Under the seal of the Obligation of the IX°
CAPITULUM PRIMUM

1. The homunculus is a living being in form resembling man, and possessing those qualities of man
which distinguish him from beasts, namely intellect and power of speech, but neither begotten and born
after the manner of human generation, nor inhabited by a human soul.

2. Thus, supposing that the re-incarnating Ego enters the foetus at the third month of gestation, it would
not serve to remove such foetus from the mother, and cause it to live; for it is already human. But a
foetus of two months might become homunculus.

3. A human being can only become homunculus if obsessed by a demon to such an extent that the human
soul is irrevocably expelled to the same degree as in death, and freed utterly so that it seeks a new
tenement, and is cut off absolutely from the old. But even this, rare as it must be except in lunacy,
involves an extension of the natural meaning of the term homunculus.

4. In the third chapter we discuss Our method of producing that which, if not a true homunculus, at least
serves all proper purposes thereunto pertinent.

CAPITULUM SECUNDUM

1. The classical method of making the homunculus is to take the fertilized ova of a woman and to
reproduce as closely as may be, without the uterus, the normal conditions of gestation therein.

2. For: in the case of ectopic gestation, it is clearly possible for the ovum to develop for a considerable
period; and a child of 4½ months weighing nine ounces, has been known to live for over an hour after
delivery. These considerations encourage us. Life is indefinitely adaptable, and life originally appeared in
a planet bacteriologically sterilized by temperatures of many thousands of degrees Centigrade. There is
therefore every reason to hope that, starting as we do with the proper First Matter, we may be able to
devise conditions of its growth in a ‘culture’, just as we have done in the case of the simpler organisms.
As it is written ‘With God all things are possible’; and is not our Motto ‘Deus est Homo’?

3. The White Tincture of the Alchemists was in this connection a replica of the Liqor Amnii, and their
Red Tincture a substitute for Blood.

4. Certain truly magical aids to the physiological experiments indicated above have always been held
worthy. The Adept must, however, be left to devise these, as in so small a treatise we have no place for a
subject so starry vast as this.

CAPITULUM TERTIUM

1. We assume that Our Brethren have well studied Our Epistle De Arte Magica Secundum Ritum Gradus
Nonae O.T.O. k.t.l.

2. Before introducing our own method of making the homunculus, let us refer to (A) the theory of
Incarnation and (B) the method of Evocation invented by us in An VI Sol in Aries (April 1910 E.V.).

A

For about three months the foetus is empty of any soul. It then attracts an Ego of such a nature as (

IV

Now let the woman be withdrawn and carried away to a place prepared.
And this place should be a great desert; for in such do rarely wander any human souls seeking
incarnation.
Further let a great circle be drawn and consecrated to the sphere of the work; and let banishing formulae
of the Sephiroth, and especially of Kether, be done often, even unto five or seven times on every day.
Outside which great circle let the woman never go. Let the mind of the woman be strengthened to resist
all impression, except of the spirit desired. Let the incense of this spirit be burnt continually; let his
colours, and his only, be displayed; and let his shapes, and his only, appear so far as may be in all things.
Further let him be most earnestly and continually invoked in a temple duly dedicated, the woman being
placed in a great triangle, while thou from the circle dost perform daily the proper form of Evocation to
Material Appearance. And let this be done twice every day, once while she is awake and once while she
is asleep.

V

And let the quickening be a feast of the Reception of the Spirit. Henceforth ye may omit the Banishings.

VI

And during the rest of the Pregnancy let there be the Charge to the Spirit (so that the whole period of all
this work is as it were an expansion in terms of life of the Art-formula of Evocation) in this manner.
Let the woman be constantly educated by words and by books and by pictures of a nature consonant, so
that all causes may work together for the defence and sustenance of the Spirit, and for its true
development.

VII

And let the delivery of the woman be retarded or advanced so far as possible to secure a rising sign
proper to such a child.

VIII

The child being born must be dedicated, purified and consecrated, according to the formulae of the
planet, element, or sign, of which it is the Incarnation.

IX

Now then thou hast a being of perfect human form, with all powers and privileges of humanity, but with
the essence of a particular chosen force, and with all the knowledge and might of its sphere; and this
being is thy creation and dependent; to it thou art Sole God and Lord, and it must serve thee.
Therefore the whole of all that part of Nature whereunto it belongs is thy dominion; and thou art
Magister Octinomous.

X

Be wary, Brother Adept, and choose well thine object, and spare not pain and labour in the Beginning of
thy Operation; for to have corn of so subtle a seed is a great thing once; to achieve it twice were the mark
of a primal energy so marvellous, that We doubt whether there be one man born in ten times ten thousand
years that hath such wonder-power.

XI

Now the Father of All prosper ye, my Brethren that dare lay hold upon the Phallus of the All-One, and
call forth its streams to irrigate your fields.
And may the spirit of Prometheus hearken, and the Spirit of Alcides aid, your Work.

Farewell, therefore; in the name of the Secret Master Blessing and Peace from Us Baphomet X° O.T.O.
Given from the throne of Ireland, Iona and all the Britains in the Sanctuary of the Gnosis this day of Sol.
An X 6 in ^ 26° 40' 49" 9 in & 5° 4' 24" (Noon Sept. 20 1914 E.V.)

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