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Published on Friday, January 2, 2004 by the Guardian/UK

Pope Calls for a New World Order
UN's failure to halt US war on Iraq leads to new initiative
by John Hooper in Rome



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http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0102-03.htm

Pope John Paul II launched one of the most important diplomatic initiatives of his long papacy yesterday when he called for a new international order to replace the one that emerged from the second world war.

Though he did not offer a detailed plan, his words appeared to show he wanted the UN replaced in light of its failure to block the use of force by America in Iraq.

The Pope called last month for the reform of world institutions and deplored any failure to respect international law. But in a sermon during a mass at St Peter's in Rome yesterday, he went much further, referring to the UN as if it were already a part of the past.

"More than ever, we need a new international order that draws on the experience and results achieved in these years by the United Nations," he declared during a service to mark the Roman Catholic Church's World Day of Peace, celebrated on January 1.

He was flanked at the altar by two of his most senior international representatives: the secretary of state, Cardinal Angelo Sodano, and the president of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace, Cardinal Renato Martino, who outraged many Americans last month by expressing "pity" and "compassion" for the captured Saddam Hussein.

The congregation included the heads of all the diplomatic missions accredited to the Holy See.

In his homily, the Pope said the new world order he wanted "would be able to provide solutions to the problems of today ... based on the dignity of human beings, an integrated development of society, solidarity between rich and poor nations, and on the sharing of resources and the extraordinary results of scientific and technological progress."

The Pope believes that not enough of these goals are being achieved with the present system of international organizations that emerged in the late 40s, including the UN, the IMF and the World Bank.

But the central issue, seen from the Vatican's point of view, is the growing irrelevance of a painstakingly constructed body of international law which is being ignored by the US administration during its "war on terror".

Cardinal Martino first signaled the Pope's disquiet last month when he presented a document written by the pontiff to mark the World Day of Peace. Without naming the US, the Pope warned: "Peace and international law are closely linked to each other: law favors peace". He also pointedly observed that "democratic governments know well that the use of force against terrorists cannot justify a renunciation of the principles of the rule of law".

The Pope acknowledged that current international law was ill-suited to dealing with rebels or terrorists and called for new treaties and reform of the UN. But yesterday's appeal was for an altogether more sweeping change.

With observer status at the UN and a network of diplomats covering 174 countries, the Holy See is in a strong position to lobby for its goals.

Its concerns over US attitudes are unlikely to be assuaged by the latest statement of policy from President George Bush's secretary of state, Colin Powell. In an article for the New York Times yesterday, Mr Powell said: "President Bush's vision is clear and right: America's formidable power must continue to be deployed on behalf of principles that are simultaneously American, but that are also beyond and greater than ourselves."

Senior members of the Catholic Church of England and Wales endorsed the Pope's comments. "We welcome the words of the Vatican and fully support what the Holy See says in this," said Ollie Wilson, a spokesman for the Catholic media office.

They cast doubt however on whether he had meant to imply that the UN had had its day and should be replaced.

Peter Jennings, press secretary to the Most Reverend Vincent Nichols, Archbishop of Birmingham, said: "The Pope is a great advocate of the UN."

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A New World Order? Vatican led? Sovereign Military Order of Malta....

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(1) The Round Table and Council on Foreign Relations

"The Round Table organization in England grew out of the life-long dream of gold and diamond magnate Cecil Rhodes for a 'new world order'."
- Gary Allen, None Dare Call It Conspiracy

"The seven wills which Cecil Rhodes made between the ages of 24 and 46 [Rhodes died at age forty-eight] constitute a kind of spiritual autobiography...Best know are the first (the Secret Society Will...), and the last, which established the Rhodes Scholarships...
"In his first will Rhodes states his aim still more specifically: 'The extension of British rule throughout the world....the foundation of so great a power as to hereafter render wars impossible and promote the interests of humanity'.
"The 'Confession of Faith' enlarges upon these ideas. The model for this proposed secret society was the Society of Jesus, though he mentions also the Masons."
- Frank Aydelotte, American Rhodes Scholarships

"The 'secret society' was organized on the conspiratorial pattern of circles within circles...The central part of the 'secret society' was established by March, 1891, using Rhodes' money. the organization was run for Rothschild [Rhodes' financier in mining enterprises] by Lord Alfred Milner...a key financier of the Bolshevik revolution. The Round Table worked behind the scenes at the highest levels of British government, influencing foreign policy and England's involvement and conduct of WWI."
- Gary Allen, None Dare Call It Conspiracy

"At the end of the war of 1914, it became clear that the organization of this system [the Round Table Group] had to be extended. Once again the task was entrusted to Lionel Curtis who established, in England and each dominion, a front organization to the existing Round Table Group. This front organization, called the Royal Institute of International Affairs, had as it nucleus in each area the existing submerged Round Table Group. In New York it was known as the Council on Foreign Relations, and was a front for J. P. Morgan and Company in association with the very small American Round Table Group. The American organizers were dominated by the large number of Morgan 'experts'...who had gone to the Paris Peace Conference and there became close friends with the similar group of English 'experts' which had been recruited by the Milner group. In fact, the original plans for the Royal Institute of International Affairs and the Council on Foreign Relations [C.F.R.] were drawn up in Paris..."
- Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope

"Colonel' Edward Mandel House was 'the British-educated son of a representative of England's financial interests in the American South. The title was honorary; House never served in the military. He was strictly a behind-the-scenes wire-puller and is regarded by many historians as the real President of the United States during the Wilson years."
"House had set down his political ideas in his book called Philip Dru: Administrator in 1912. In this book House laid out a thinly fictionalized plan for conquest of America by establishing 'Socialism as dreamed by Karl Marx'. He described a 'conspiracy' - the word is his - which succeeds in electing a U.S. President by means of 'deception regarding his real opinions and intentions'. Among other things, House wrote that the conspiracy was to insinuate 'itself into the primaries, in order that no candidate might be nominated whose views were not in accord with theirs'. Elections were to become mere charades conducted for the bedazzlement of the booboisie. The idea was to use both the Democrat and Republican parties as instruments to promote World government."
- Gary Allen, None Dare Call It Conspiracy

"Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."
- Woodrow Wilson, The New Freedom

"In 1919 House met in Paris with members of...The Round Table in order to form an organization whose job it would be to propagandize the citizens of America, England and western Europe on the glories of World Government. The big selling point, of course, was 'peace'."
"...The most important financial dynasties in America following WWI were (in addition to Morgan) the Rockefeller family; Kuhn, Loeb & Company; Dillon Read and Company and Brown Bros Harriman. All were represented in the C.F.R. and Paul Warburg [who was the key figure in implementing the Federal Reserve System] was one of the incorporators."
"The C.F.R. has come to be know as 'The Establishment', 'the invisible government' and 'the Rockefeller foreign office'. This semi-secret organization unquestionably has become the most influential group in America."
- Gary Allen, None Dare Call It Conspiracy

C.F.R. openly advocates 'building a new international order [which] must be responsive to world aspirations for peace, [and] for social and economic change...an international order [code word for world government]...including states labeling themselves as 'Socialist' [Communist]."
- Study No. 7, published by the C.F.R. on November 25, 1959

As of 1971 "the formal membership in the C.F.R. is composes of close to 1500 of the most elite names in the worlds of government, labor, business, finance, communications, the foundations, and the academy - and...it has staffed almost every key position of every administration since those of FDR..."

"At least forty-seven C.F.R. members were among the American delegates to the founding of the United Nations in San Francisco in 1945. Members of the C.F.R. group included Harold Stassen, John J. McCloy, Owen Lattimore (called by the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee a 'conscious articulate instrument of the Soviet conspiracy'), Alger Hiss (Communist spy), Nelson Rockefeller, John Foster Dulles, John Carter Vincent (security risk), and Dean Acheson."
"So completely has the C.F.R. dominated the State Department over the past thirty-eight years that every Secretary of State except Cordell Hull, James Byrnes, and William Rogers has been a member of the C.F.R."
- Gary Allen, None Dare Call It Conspiracy

"Almost half of the Council members have been invited to assume official government positions or to act as consultants at one time or another."
- The Christian Science Monitor

"International banking organizations that currently [1971] have men in the C.F.R. include Kuhn, Loeb & Company; Lazard Freres (directly affiliated with Rothschild); Dillon Read; Lehman Bros.; Goldman, Sachs; Chase Manhattan Bank; Morgan Guaranty Bank; Brown Bros. Harriman; First National City Bank; Chemical Bank & Trust, and Manufactures Hanover Trust Bank."
"Among the major corporations that have men in the C.F.R. are Standard Oil, IBM, Xerox, Eastman Kodak, Pan American, Firestone, U.S. Steel, General Electric and American Telephone and Telegraph company."
"Among the communications corporations represented in the C.F.R. are National Broadcasting Corporation, Columbia Broadcasting System, Time, Life, Fortune, Look, Newsweek, New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, New York Post, Denver Post, Louisville Courier Journal, Minneapolis Tribune, the Knight papers, McGraw-Hill, Simon & Schuster, Harper Bros., Random House, Little Brown & Co., Macmillan Co., Viking Press, Saturday Review, Business Week and Book of the Month Club."
- Gary Allen, None Dare Call It Conspiracy

During World War II "most of the concentration camp factories were operated by the giant German chemical combine, I. G. Farben. In fact, one of Farben's subsidiaries manufactured the poison gas used in concentration camp gas chambers. A remarkable book, The Crime and Punishment of I. G. Farben , by Joseph Borkin, documents how the Farben companies, in cooperation with the Nazi SS, ran the concentration camps and adjacent factories as a business enterprise."
"Prince Bernhard of the House of Orange in the Netherlands had been a member of the SS before the war, followed by a stint as an employee of I. G. Farben. He then married into the House of Orange and assumed his position as chairman of Shell Oil."
- William Bramley, The Gods of Eden

Three centuries ago, "a powerful group of Englishmen and Scots had formed a Protestant political faction in England known as the Whigs. The Whigs were actually headquartered in Holland which...was under the monarchy of the House of Orange. From their Dutch base, the Whigs launched the Glorious Revolution of 1688 and quickly unseated James II in a bloodless coup. The Whigs then placed James II's son-in-law, William III of Orange, on the British throne. The House of Orange now reigned over both Holland and England, as well as over their original German homeland."
"William II is reported to have been a Freemason. In fact, in 1688, a militant secret society was formed to support William II. It was called the Order of Orange after William II's family, and it patterned itself after Freemasonry. The Orange Order was anti-Catholic and its purpose was to ensure that Protestantism remained the dominant Christian religion of England."
"Upon his assumption of the British throne, William III quickly undertook to erect the same institutions in England as those which had been established by his dynasty in Holland: a strong parliament with a weakened monarchy and a central bank operating on an inflatable paper currency. William and his queen, Mary II, also promptly launched England into expensive wars against Catholic France."
- William Bramley, The Gods of Eden

(2) The Bilderbergers

"It should not be surprising to learn that there is on the international level an organizational equivalent of the C.F.R. This group calls itself the Bilderbergers....The strange name of this group is taken from the site of the first meeting in May, 1954 - the Hotel de Bilderberg - in Oostebeek, Holland. The man who create the Bilderbergers is His Royal Highness Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands. The Prince is an important figure in Royal Dutch Petroleum (Shell Oil) and the Societe General de Belgique, a huge conglomerate cartel with worldwide holdings. The Bilderbergers meet once - or sometimes twice - a year. Those in attendance include leading political and financial figures from the United states and Western Europe. Prince Bernhard makes no effort to hide the fact that the ultimate goal of the Bilderbergers is a world government. In the meantime, while the 'new world order' is being built, the Bilderbergers coordinate the efforts of the European and American power elites.
"Prince Bernard's counterpart among the American Bilderbergers is David Rockefeller, chairman of the board of the C.F.R., whose economic base is the giant Chase Manhattan Bank and Standard Oil. Among the other Bilderbergers from the world of ultra-high finance are Baron Edmund de Rothschild of the House of Rothschild, C. Douglas Dillon (C.F.R.) of Dillon Read & Co., Robert McNamara of the World Bank, Sir Eric Roll of S.G. Warburg and Co., Ltd, Pierce Paul Schweitzer of the International Monetary Fund, and George Ball (C.F.R.) of Lehman Bothers."
- Gary Allen, None Dare Call It Conspiracy

"Prince Bernhard personally chaired these meetings until 1976, when a corruption scandal forced him to resign."
- William Bramley, The Gods of Eden


Sovereign Military Order of Malta (abbreviated SMOM) has also been linked to the Bilderbergers as an "800 year old Vatican 'secret police' or 'dirty tricks bureau. According to Covert Action Information Bulletin #25, Winter 1986, notable recent members of SMOM have included Dr. Otto von Hapsburg (a prime organize of the infamous 'Bilderbergers'), Franz von Papen (the man who persuaded President von Hindenburg to resign and appoint Hitler chancellor of Germany) William Casey (the CIA chief who died mysteriously during the Iran-Contra hearings), Major General Reinhard Gehlen (vide supra), General Alexander Haig, William F. Buckley jr., Clare Boothe Luce, and the three ringleaders o the P2 conspiracy in Italy --Roberto Calvi, Michele Sindona and Licio Gelli. Baigent, Lincoln and Leigh in The Messianic Legacy (Henry Holt, New York, 1987) have added to the list of SMOM members Alexandre de Marenches, former chief of French Intelligence, and claim mysterious links between SMOM and the Priory of Sion. Gordon Thomas and Max Wittman in The Year of Armaggedon (Corgi, London, 1984) claim that SMOM members act as couriers between the Vatican and the CIA. Most scholars dissent vehemently from von Hanfkopf's ill-documented charge that Professor de Selby, Flahive, La Tournier and the shadowy La Fournier are all members of SMOM."
- Bram

Related Sites

The Bilderberg Group - Planning the World's Future Behind Closed Doors:
http://www.parascope.com/mx/articles/bilderberg.htm

By Charles Overbeck - details of '98 meeting, history and attendance reports
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Hey Phil do you see any resemblance from this




To this? Even the door handles are made to look like eyes. Coincidence? I don't think so.


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JD,

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Not sure what your talking about here. Did you post any pictures by chance.cause I don't see any...

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phew! That was tough going... but extremely interesting and informative... I think I will have to go through it again at a later stage...

Phil, I really appreciate you taking the time to share your research with us, I personally would not have had a clue where to begin... it must have taken ages.
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Thanks phil, you brought me back from the brink, reading this, and then as I read more deeply between the lines of the Pontiff's writings, I can SEE IT! Utter disdain for the real Jesus, the person, who's disregarded in favour of Sameramis, Isis and Osiris, and Nimrod, that's the family the Pope is actually referring to here, in his 2008 speech (note precisely how it ends). You gotta catch the drift, given very precisely - the whole thing is a masterful use of words as craft, but the hint is there, right at the end, with the reference to the common mother.. where the reference to Jesus as Son of God in the flesh and savior of all humanity, is framed, within the context of a single mother of origin, bypassing Jesus. Then there was that other one, he wrote, about the "Pierced Christ" and how we must ponder that with all three kinds of love.. OMG! Could it be?

Pope's 2008 New Years Address
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/be...-peace_en.html

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I likewise invite believers to implore tirelessly from God the great gift of peace. Christians, for their part, know that they can trust in the intercession of Mary, who, as the Mother of the Son of God made flesh for the salvation of all humanity, is our common Mother.
Jesus claimed that only those who do the will of his father in heaven are his mother, and father, brothers and sisters.

He did not deny his mother, but she did not preceed him either, in the same way that Abraham did not preceed him.

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I likewise invite believers to implore tirelessly from God the great gift of peace. Christians, for their part, know that they can trust in the intercession of Mary, who, as the Mother of the Son of God made flesh for the salvation of all humanity, is our common Mother.
Strange way to end his thing. It's like he was talking to someone else altogether, requesting that everyone come into his fold as one family, then, as an aside, he quickly switches, and speaks to the hoards, as if peace is something we can win from God by imploring tirelessly in asking God for it - then he refers to Christians, as only those who trust in the intercessory grace, not of Jesus, but of Mary! I caught him, yet again. Same thing with the Pierced Side of Christ and the three types of love essay, I can see it phil!

Basically, the message is - disarm, and join my empire as children of the family of nations, and let's honour Mary as our common mother, who's intercession is assured. It's not really about Jesus, but the union of Isis and Osiris, or that's the way it appears. Strange..

I think I can read what the Pope is writing at ALL levels, to see what he's really trying to say, for "instruction"..

No worries, I will never become a Roman Catholic. I can see it, see through it.
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Good stuff guys....thanks for taking the time on this. I don't necessarily follow and/or believe everything in this research, but I think its VERY close....and is a good warning. Being a Christ follower myself, I can see so much of this ...and believe it.

So, will WWIII or the battle of Armaggedon bring in the NWO?

Will the NWO bring about another war?

Will another false-flag attack trigger tighter security, leading to the NWO?

Can any or all of this be stopped?
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very interesting read, took a while but well worth it

i also noticed that in the Paramount picture there are 11 light clouds and 22 dark clouds
11+22=33 more illuminati numerology
maybe there is some hidden symbology about the clouds?

this website will expand on the corruption of corporate AMERIKKKA
http://www.usavsus.info/
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Anon,

Thank you very much for taking the time to read this through and absorb it. Sorry I didn't reply earlier, just saw you online and you reminded me.

I sure hope you learned a lot from this stuff, cause its a few thousand hours of research just to put some of this stuff together and nutshell it. So I am glad you enjoyed it and found it valuable.

Cheers Anon & Welcome to the forums!

I hope you spread your wings and make this your home on the net!

Welcome!

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I dont know if any of you know about Oral Robberts and ORU, but many people who you see on TV today have a lot to do with him. Anyways I drive by ORU often and something is very screwy about how his school is constructed... I dont know all the symbols as Phil does, but if you recall the guy...
...Remember the hospital that he had built across ORU and then lost it?
Tell me this is not obvious:
(Notice the large male genitalia,and what its pointing at?)




....anyways check out the ski view of the on campus library:




And heres a full view of the whole ORU campus, the symbols here are strange, but unlike some of you guys out there I dont know the symbology behind them...





...Well hope this helps. Oh btw... DONT SEND YOUR KIDS TO ORU!!!


Jeff

P.S. Jesus said "You call Me Teacher and Lord; and you are right, for I AM" (John13:13)
The Living Word also said "But do not be called Rabbi; for ONE IS YOUR TEACHER, and you all are brothers"(Matt23:

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