Revisiting "Modern Marvels", pre 9/11 WTC propaganda with the hollow towers in mind

~~lynx_land~~ · 9 Nov 2010 , 04:42 AM

This documentary from late 2000 early 2001 featured an overview of the World Trade Centres life just prior to 9/11.

It is the source of the famous Frank Di Martini multiple airliner interview.

Anyway, the documentary runs the rule over many interesting features of the WTC complex that seem completely redundant with the hollow towers research born in mind.

Here is the documentary in eight parts.

YouTube - Modern Marvels: World Trade Center Part 1 (HQ)

An interesting look at the underground machinery and generators. This footage really from the Twin Towers? Why would you need all that airconditioning and cooling equipment and generators for an empty tower? Why wasn't it found in the rubble pile? The surface area looks very vast to me, I am questioning whether this footage is even from the twin towers. I am convinced some of these people are actors. Look at the demenor of the guy Eric Darton. He sounds like an absolute goofball on crack cocaine.

Apparently the complex has its own zip code. Whatever, have fun delivering mail to offices which dont exist, but this documentary says the WTC had it's own "police force"?? I'm sorry but;

YouTube - What a bunch of the proverbial

Even if the building were fully tenanted this is a load of garbage. Is this something new, lots of violent crime in corperate office buildings? The police in those earlier years would be out keeping the streets of NYC safe, remember how dangerous NYC was in the 80's and early 90's.

Interesting that the towers had their own automatic window washers. But why didn't they employ that technology over at WTC 7 15 years later? We know this because we saw window washers on 9/11 at 7 World Trade. Or maybe they did, and those window washers were up to no good. Furthermore, why go to such painstaking effort to keep the windows clean, 24/7 when no one was even habbiting the building? Was the window washing system cover for something more suspicious?

I wonder where the footage of all the trucks stacked up is taken from, because clearly there is no need to delivery much apart from the mall and the gift shop.

Part 2;

YouTube - Modern Marvels: World Trade Center Part 2 (HQ)

See Andrew S Dolkart at 2:13. Ever seen anyone get so excited over an elevator?

Later on they talk about the 1993 WTC bombing. Notice how that bombing did virtually no structual damage whatsoever to the tower? Thats not quite how the attack is presented for the most part. They usually attempt to maximise damage done or say that the towers would have toppled in a different circumstance, when in reality, the bomb didn't do jack shit to the towers and was never going to.

Curiously no mention or footage of the machinery floors of either tower. After all, why would you need machinery floors for an empty building? Same question regarding the underground machinerys base they show in the doco.

YouTube - Modern Marvels: World Trade Center Part 3 (HQ)

YouTube - Modern Marvels: World Trade Center Part 4 (HQ)

YouTube - Modern Marvels: World Trade Center Part 5 (HQ)

YouTube - Modern Marvels: World Trade Center Part 6(HQ)

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Phil Jayhan · 9 Nov 2010 , 04:52 AM

Wow lynx, its gunna take me a while to get through this post; A ton of really great stuff in here!

Check this out; I did manage to get this from part 1 of modern marvels;

It was another tough screen capture. I saw it first time around and is on screen for less then a second. I know it could be part of legitimate electrical, but also know that...

And your right, some of those shots look far too large, but it could be perspective too, the ceiling, floor pan seems to match on some of the shots in part 1.

Can't wait to see what else others will dig out, take screenshots of and post...

cheers-
phil

**Howie** · 9 Nov 2010 , 08:37 AM

The window washing system all makes sense now, they don't have 2 guys on a platform because they can't let them see whats (not) there.

**do2read** · 9 Nov 2010 , 08:40 AM

Quote:

Apparently the complex has its own zip code.

That would make a great FOIA Request! What were the volume of Mail statistics for that Zip Code?

Great videos Lynxland!

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hanuri · 10 Nov 2010 , 04:05 AM

dunno how to take screenshots , but in teh part 2 clip at 00.32 mark as the woman is speaking you will see a nice and familiar pic of HOLLOW towers

. see yoursef

~~Krypto_Juice~~ · 10 Nov 2010 , 04:33 AM

There was only one person manning the machine. http://johnii2.tripod.com/wtc3d.htm

All windows were washed automatically using a device whose design looks very much like the Gelatin B platform...........except at 110 - they had to be done manually only because the the apparatus wouldn't couldn't fit the windows up that high...........

A closer view of the top of the North Tower. Look right above the telescope and notice the man standing in an odd looking contraption. That was the automated window washer. The entire thing moved around the top of the building on a track. If you look below the telescope on the bottom right side of the picture you will see the actual washing apparatus going down the side of the building. It took the machine one week to wash all the windows on one side. Thus each tower's windows were washed about every other month.

This is Jan Demczur at work at the very top of the building. All other windows were done automatically with no ability to observe anything through the glass and into the interior of the office spaces.

**clive** · 10 Nov 2010 , 05:49 AM

This may be Roco Camaj WTC window cleaner

Regards Clive

~~Krypto_Juice~~ · 10 Nov 2010 , 06:12 AM

There were only two men in the entire window washing operation. The photo of the window washer above may have been from the 70's. The lack of hair in the more recent Roco photo only means that he lost it over the years. So due to a closer physical resemblance I think the guy washing the window in the photo above must be Roco. Which makes sense because that was his job. Jan was known to be the operator of the machinery atop the roof.

This is Jan the boss of the operation and he's still alive.

This is Roco who was Jan's assistant and he's dead, killed on 9/11

**clive** · 10 Nov 2010 , 08:13 AM

I have seen a video of Roco being interviewed whilst in the cage but for the life of me cannot now find it. Any help would be appreciated.

Regards Clive

**Howie** · 10 Nov 2010 , 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hanuri

dunno how to take screenshots , but in teh part 2 clip at 00.32 mark as the woman is speaking you will see a nice and familiar pic of HOLLOW towers

. see yoursef

Well spotted.

9 Nov 2010 , 04:52 AM	#2
Phil Jayhan Admin Join Date: 23 Feb 2004 Location: Middle Earth Posts: 22,824 Threads: 2784 Blog Entries: 28 Thanked 7,881 Times in 2,899 Posts	Re: Revisiting "Modern Marvels", pre 9/11 WTC propaganda with the hollow towers in mi Wow lynx, its gunna take me a while to get through this post; A ton of really great stuff in here! Check this out; I did manage to get this from part 1 of modern marvels; It was another tough screen capture. I saw it first time around and is on screen for less then a second. I know it could be part of legitimate electrical, but also know that... And your right, some of those shots look far too large, but it could be perspective too, the ceiling, floor pan seems to match on some of the shots in part 1. Can't wait to see what else others will dig out, take screenshots of and post... cheers- phil __________________ Phil Jayhan 9/11 Blog \| Phil Jayhan.Com Video Host \| Frederick Bastiats Audio of "The Law"

9 Nov 2010 , 08:37 AM	#3
Howie Thinker Join Date: 27 Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 133 Threads: 12 Thanked 233 Times in 78 Posts	Re: Revisiting "Modern Marvels", pre 9/11 WTC propaganda with the hollow towers in mi The window washing system all makes sense now, they don't have 2 guys on a platform because they can't let them see whats (not) there.

10 Nov 2010 , 04:05 AM	#5
hanuri Privileged Join Date: 17 Mar 2007 Location: europe , finland Posts: 868 Threads: 61 Thanked 745 Times in 381 Posts	Re: Revisiting "Modern Marvels", pre 9/11 WTC propaganda with the hollow towers in mi dunno how to take screenshots , but in teh part 2 clip at 00.32 mark as the woman is speaking you will see a nice and familiar pic of HOLLOW towers . see yoursef

10 Nov 2010 , 04:33 AM	#6
~~Krypto_Juice~~ Join Date: 5 Nov 2010 Location: St. Louis Missouri Posts: 10 Threads: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Revisiting "Modern Marvels", pre 9/11 WTC propaganda with the hollow towers in mi There was only one person manning the machine. http://johnii2.tripod.com/wtc3d.htm All windows were washed automatically using a device whose design looks very much like the Gelatin B platform...........except at 110 - they had to be done manually only because the the apparatus wouldn't couldn't fit the windows up that high........... A closer view of the top of the North Tower. Look right above the telescope and notice the man standing in an odd looking contraption. That was the automated window washer. The entire thing moved around the top of the building on a track. If you look below the telescope on the bottom right side of the picture you will see the actual washing apparatus going down the side of the building. It took the machine one week to wash all the windows on one side. Thus each tower's windows were washed about every other month. This is Jan Demczur at work at the very top of the building. All other windows were done automatically with no ability to observe anything through the glass and into the interior of the office spaces. Last edited by Krypto_Juice; 10 Nov 2010 at 06:08 AM.

10 Nov 2010 , 05:49 AM	#7
clive Moderator Join Date: 3 Jul 2010 Location: Down Under Land Posts: 1,685 Threads: 119 Blog Entries: 123 Thanked 3,349 Times in 1,281 Posts	Re: Revisiting "Modern Marvels", pre 9/11 WTC propaganda with the hollow towers in mi This may be Roco Camaj WTC window cleaner Regards Clive

10 Nov 2010 , 06:12 AM	#8
~~Krypto_Juice~~ Join Date: 5 Nov 2010 Location: St. Louis Missouri Posts: 10 Threads: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Revisiting "Modern Marvels", pre 9/11 WTC propaganda with the hollow towers in mi There were only two men in the entire window washing operation. The photo of the window washer above may have been from the 70's. The lack of hair in the more recent Roco photo only means that he lost it over the years. So due to a closer physical resemblance I think the guy washing the window in the photo above must be Roco. Which makes sense because that was his job. Jan was known to be the operator of the machinery atop the roof. This is Jan the boss of the operation and he's still alive. This is Roco who was Jan's assistant and he's dead, killed on 9/11 Last edited by Krypto_Juice; 10 Nov 2010 at 07:17 AM.

10 Nov 2010 , 08:13 AM	#9
clive Moderator Join Date: 3 Jul 2010 Location: Down Under Land Posts: 1,685 Threads: 119 Blog Entries: 123 Thanked 3,349 Times in 1,281 Posts	Re: Revisiting "Modern Marvels", pre 9/11 WTC propaganda with the hollow towers in mi I have seen a video of Roco being interviewed whilst in the cage but for the life of me cannot now find it. Any help would be appreciated. Regards Clive