For me it is. Because I can say the same thing, and probably show even more of his error without using such words or terminology. But whether intentional or otherwise, Jones is certainly doing a fine job at helping the Vatican stay hidden as the power structure we are fighting against. Thus I don't fault Eric Phelps in the least really for taking such an attitude or stance...I have a ton of respect for Eric Phelps.

cheers-
phil

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Rep: Phil

If you believe that and can proove even more things that can show how Alex Jones is a dissinfo agent and working to keep the vatican control NWO out of the picture why do you disagree with the terminology of calling him a Temporal Coadjutor witch is exactly what he is?

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One of the reason is this; Terminology. 911 people and Patriots seem to have adopted thier own little language, which while many of us know what is meant, the terms are vague and hazy at best.


For instance. Disinfo agent. I honestly think that saying someone isn't preaching the entire truth, or falls far short of it, is a better way to say that. Same with "shill" although I use it on occasion. The words "Temporal Coadjutor" don't really mean anything to anyone. I prefer to say it like this, regarding Jones, because it makes people think, even his supporters;
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Example: Alex Jones has preached about the Illuminati for years and years as being the ones behind the New World Order. He has mentioned the term hundreds of thousands of times. Yet he never once tells people who the "Illuminati" are, who started them (Both modern day branches) and what they are all about. They were started out by the Vatican, through the first Jesuit and founder of the Jesuits, Ignatius Deloyola, for the then sole purpose of crushing with all malice and aggression, the Protestant Revolution sweeping Europe, or the Roman Empire. In a way they took the mantle of the Dominicans, who were in charge of the Holy Roman Inquisition till then, and took it to new levels.

And the later branch of the "Bavarian Illuminati" was started out by Adam Weishaupt, on May 1st (May day) 1776. And he was a Jesuit, working as an agent of the Vatican.

Now heres where it gets better and shows why I don't like using that term, but rather like to say it like this:

How is it that an accomplished researcher of the New World Order, like Alex Jones, doesn't know these things? How is it that it only takes 5 minutes on a google search to find these things out, that the Illuminati is a Military wing of the Vatican, yet Jones doesn't know this? Or perhaps he knows it, but simply won't preach this truth??

It is without dispute that the Illuminati are a Military wing of the Vatican. And this is easy stuff to find on google. Thus for Alex Jones to NOT know this, would mean that he is either stupid (Which we know he is not) or working to leave the Vatican as a nameless, faceless entity, which if nameless and faceless, cannot be fingered or blamed.

Thus he i acting as a gatekeeper to the truth. And keeping people from entering into the truth.

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Thats how I like to say it and it has a lot more impact than simply saying he is a "Temporal Coadjutor." Most people at that point, who support him, will then ask you to prove the claim; Thats where it gets sticky, and leaves their minds closed. However, there is no logical argument to the things I just wrote above, and they know it, if they care enough to do a google search...Does this make sense to you DissentingOpinion??

I have a ton of respect for Eric Phelps and wish he would become a member here, as I think he would find it has enough order to feel at home. I just wish he would mimick me in this, because I think it more effectually gets across the message we are trying to say, and thats that either Alex is working as an agent of the Vatican, or he is a sloppily poor researcher and kind of dumb.

Would you agree with that?

cheers-
phil

Make sure you also check out the "Secret Society of Jesus" place, as I would like to see that forum start moving again....

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"In disquisitions of every kind there are certain primary truths, or first principles, upon which all subsequent reasoning must depend." --Alexander Hamilton

To be a Gatekeeper of the Truth is a very powerful position to uphold Phil.

I've been hesitant about following ANYONE in the truth movement for this very reason. When one feels they have the right to withhold information, and release what they believe to be okay for the simple people to understand they are playing God, and are no better than the ones we are trying to sniff out of the system.

We all come to our conclusions through our own education, life's experiences, filters; if you will ... whatever criteria used is unique. Some people can look at the same data and come to a different conclusion. A real leader of a truth movement allows this to happen as it will. Controlling that process makes the controller a dictator/manipulator, and no longer a truth seeker, in MY OPINION.

If this is supposed to be a truth movement then we really don't need anyone hiding information that costs us more time and energy to sniff out. If one is truly seeking the truth, and discovers an important snippet of information; small or large then it needs to be put out there to be examined.


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Alex Jones is an interesting person that is for sure!

Yes. This and the ommission of the Money Masters Information are the two most startling facts about AJ imo. How did he miss these things? If he did why doesn't he report on them? Is he scared? Has he been threatened or visited personally with the fingernail of his neice's? There might be reasons other than he is an agent. But he could well be one....I am going to look at this more myself when I get time.

Rep: Phil

Well said, couldn't break it down any better.

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Colossians 2:8 (KJV)

This is pretty interesting...Alex appears to actually believe it's "the Zionists":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llq0hikMpSU

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Thats an ok short video. And think Alex Jones has tipped his hat to everyone who has even 1/2 a brain to think for themselves. It isn't that hard to see through Alex Jones, and all his fear-mongering and gate-keeping for the Vatican. The only thing I don't like about that video is it gives the false impression that Israel is behind all of this, which plays rather well into the NWO and Neocons plans. Blame the Jews! Israel is a Vatican or Papal State, only made possible through the Rothschilds having set it up after WWII with Vatican money and funds.

Thus the real question is who controls the State of Israel, and who are the "real zionists...?" That would of course be the Vatican. Wouldn't you agree BG?

cheers-
phil

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"In disquisitions of every kind there are certain primary truths, or first principles, upon which all subsequent reasoning must depend." --Alexander Hamilton

i've seen this type of thing before and i've done it myself many times lol

when looking at someone's character like this it's important to take into account the idea that they may just be ignorant in the right way.

like ajones..imo there is a strong probability he doesn't know about the complete money/vatican connection. this information is not easy to digest and he has done his fair share of digesting! he has done a lot of work with the material he has. maybe he is being lazy and not pushing through all the crap to find this last bit he really needs? has anyone spoken to him literally to talk to him about it?

the jnr shrub..imo its probable that he has been kept in the dark about most of the snr activities and his superiors. this fits perfectly.

the information campaign has been successful in a way as can be seen if these hypothesises are true imo...

He doesn't tell you who's really behind everything, and considers people who believe the Vatican to be behind everything "mental" and lumps them in with the reptilian believers (David Icke disciples), etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7LB0oQpHYU

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