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Old 30 Jun 2010 , 18:48 PM   #1
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Question WARNING: GRAPHIC DISTURBING IMAGE - Can anyone Identify this 9/11 Jumper?




9/11 Jumpers Video's - Observations & a Critical Examination

I know that some people might have a hard time with this, thus the warnings of graphic images. Please do not click the spoiler below unless you want to see a totally disgusting, nasty, gruesome picture of an alleged WTC jumper. There is a reason for this other then showing a disgusting picture. The picture itself raises many legitimate questions which need to finally be asked.

**I don't want to hear one complaint from anybody. If you open this spoiler then you lose your right to complain. If you are uncomfortable with this line of research then go and read something else. People who click the spoiler AFTER being warned have no one to whine to about this.

NOTE: It has been proven that this picture was not of anyone from 911, but rather a Russian man who was hit by a truck. Please scroll through the thread to see this. (added 9.28.2011)

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My question is simple. Who is this man and why is it that even after 9 years we don't know his name or have a family member owning this man? He is easily and perfectly identifiable for anyone who would have known him. Yet not a soul has stepped forward to identify this man, nor did the press track down his family or story.

Yet, after 9 years, he has, as far as I know, gone unclaimed. Also, 3 more questions; Why are 3 NY City Police officers (Can tell by their pants and shoes) standing next to this man, without so much as placing one of their coats over the man to give him a little dignity in death?

Also, does anyone here have any idea what would happen if someone jumped from any NY building, and you or I tried to go and snap a picture of the gruesome splattered corpse with 3 NY city cops standing watch? We would get beaten silly with billy clubs. Those are my own 4 main issues with this picture;

After 9 years, we have no ID, yet everyone knows who that blurry woman is standing in the North Tower plane hole. (Edna Cintron) The police offer the man no covering or dignity. And they also allow a photographer to take pictures of this mans fate and splattered body.

Not bloody likely; On all 3 issues. Whats your own thoughts on this issue?



I do also have one more issue. Wheres all the blood?



Mystery solved, go to end post to see that this was a Russian man hit by a truck or car.


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    Old 30 Jun 2010 , 19:31 PM   #2
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    Phil I feel safe in saying this. It is fake.

    I think the easiest way to figure out what would happen to someone from that height is to look at people who have a terminal failure at skydiving. They are at heights greater than this obviously fake body and as I look across websites I have yet to see anyone that looked like that.

    http://www.sptimes.com/2008/01/05/Pa...les_to_d.shtml
    No blood even through a white sheet. Clearly you don't splatter.

    That is the only one I could find but without a doubt that guy there is like you said Hollywood magic and a bad job at that.
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    Old 30 Jun 2010 , 20:32 PM   #3
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    Lightbulb Guy who Filmed Jumpers on 9/11? Fraud?

    I tend to agree with your conclusion Kevin. This might also explain why this man below had such a hard time expressing or displaying any kind of real sorrow while being interviewed. Because he knows he is a fraud and filmed a fraud. This is the man who filmed the jumpers, in an interview. Notice how this guy tries to cry but comes up dry. Yet wipes his eyes anyways to show he was "really crying."

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    Humans have an aerodynamic limit, a terminal velocity.

    Of course this is different if you are in a nose dive for the most speed, or spread eagle for maximum drag.

    This jumper was amazing. He manages to reach the ground feet first.

    Because humans are universally top-heavy, to travel at aerodynamic top speed feet first requires enormous control, and strength (abs), as the apparent wind you create falling will be constantly trying to flip you over the "right" way.

    For a human to fall that distance traveling top speed to land feet first is a pretty amazing feat.

    Maybe an experienced skydiver can tell us for sure.

    Kinda like making a lawn dart land point up.

    Fake is my vote.



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    Lightbulb

    I need to retract one thing after more carefully examining the photograph. The man was covered, by that white sheet to the left, being held up vertically, and you can see the thumb of one person (closest to you) in a wool glove holding the corner of the sheet. And apparently the officer closest to the white sheet is holding up the other side.

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    Yet, why photograph him? What is the point?

    If you examine the white plastic sheet to the left, you can see blood on it from having covered him beforehand and the sheet was lifted to snap the picture.

    I do not think this changes anything however. I believe the picture is fraudulent. How about you guys?

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    Not one single soul has claimed this person as their father, husband, brother? Quite unlikely.
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    Where are the 8 pints of blood? This man was killed somewhere else and dumped here, why is the head intact? I believe even landing on ones feet that the head would still suffer disfiguring trauma. It appears the body was cut open and the contents allowed to spill out, a handy cadaver?
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    It looks to me like a body that has already been dead before. The color of the face, the lack of fresh blood gushing out. And how come there is no scratch on the left hand and the face is almost untouched?
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    9/11 jumper photos

    I don;t know if these photos are faked or real but I thought this would be the place to post this for discussion:




    above is a collection of pictures of jumpers and below is a picture at the bottom of the one of the towers.


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    I don;t know if these photos are faked or real but I thought this would be the place to post this for discussion:




    above is a collection of pictures of jumpers and below is a picture at the bottom of the one of the towers.


    Few things but first great picts.

    1) Look at the picture third from the left on the bottom row. You can clearly tell that is not a real human but a manican. I say that based on his legs alone. Who falls with legs like that?

    2) The bottom picture clearly shows it is fake. I love fake blood, to poor to screw with it but love it all the same. Real blood would only splatter like that if you were blown up and there is not enough of it. Our body hold like 10 liters of blood at adulthood.

    Second problem is real blood is more gloopy. ANd now that i think of it I have to go find something that I believe will nail this coffin for Phil (in Phils favor of course). If I am right this will GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD.
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    Phil you need to delete this topic right away it's idiotic and in terrible taste. The splattered body is real and you guys are making fools of yourselves and embarrassing me and many other people here with this utter stupidity. You are becoming laughing stocks and jokes with this moronic and horrible topic. You get carried away with insanity sometimes.

    The splattered guy might have been a bum it's possible a jumper landed on him or he could have been a janitor based on how he's dressed or a courier who went up into the tower to deliver an envelope.

    I'm sure they identified him I bet he had a wallet or some type of ID card on him from somewhere.

    And obviously they lifted the white plastic to let the photographer take the photo who knows why it's not important. Maybe it was a police photographer and they quickly covered the body up again.

    Bottom line this topic is atrocious and has no purpose except to make you look really really stupid even dumber than the No Planer lunatics. Flush this topic today because it's incredibly insulting and is ruining all your hard work here.

    New visitors are going to think you're a crazy nut not worth listening to. There is nothing fake about the dead guy or any of the other pics the falling people really did jump from the tower.

    Delete this topic today.
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