A word of caution regarding Jesuit exposès - Page 2

**PrussianBlue** · 22 Apr 2007 , 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Phil Jayhan

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I think the main difference between you and some of us here is that you look upon humans as animals, while we are not animals. We are made in the likeness of God. And are to behave in such a way as is befitting of this great honor.

Phil

I am quite surprised that you could make such a statement considering what I have read about your serious oposition to the vatican. Yo can't tell me that you have posted all this stuff but still swallow the shit about the catholic god.

The thought of that makes me vomit. You could not be such a hypocrite..... surely ???

Well one guy sticking his rod up another guys ass grosses me out.

I worship the one true God, and am not ashamed of it. They worship lucifer, and should be ashamed, and one day will be ashamed. I don't worship the God of the Catholics. I worship him who made the heavens and the earth, and is above every creature that can be named.

Cheers-
phil

OK
Thanks for that clarification Phil.
Mighty interesting.

Cheers

**trueblue** · 24 Apr 2007 , 14:23 PM

PrussianBlue;

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I don't quite get your point on divorce, but I would still say that people have been falling in and out of love forever. What you might see as statistics of todays world could well be scewed by the alarming omount of mis matches that are being performed as weddings.

When I use the term, love, at least in this context, I don't mean "liking something a lot" , or "it makes me feel good",which seems to be the normal usage of this overused word. I think it's this misunderstanding of love that is the basis for all the "mismatches" we see today. The traditional marriage vows embody the true spirit of love very well, and trying to live up to those vows can teach a lot about the nature of love.
I've been married twice, so I have no problem believing that marriage has ALWAYS been difficult!

But our modern culture seems to EXPECT people to be so selfish that as soon at things aren't so rosy, it's perfectly acceptable to dump your spouse and find a new one. that is the part that is new in history.

Sorry I used the word degenerate to describe homosexuals. I just don't know what to call someone who is attracted to a group (males) who by nature are likely to do serious physical harm to any other male that is attempting to fondle their genitals.

Sounds pretty crazy to me, so I'll call them crazy instead of degenerate.

Phil Jayhan · 24 Apr 2007 , 20:17 PM

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PrussianBlue;

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I don't quite get your point on divorce, but I would still say that people have been falling in and out of love forever. What you might see as statistics of todays world could well be scewed by the alarming omount of mis matches that are being performed as weddings.

When I use the term, love, at least in this context, I don't mean "liking something a lot" , or "it makes me feel good",which seems to be the normal usage of this overused word. I think it's this misunderstanding of love that is the basis for all the "mismatches" we see today. The traditional marriage vows embody the true spirit of love very well, and trying to live up to those vows can teach a lot about the nature of love.
I've been married twice, so I have no problem believing that marriage has ALWAYS been difficult!

But our modern culture seems to EXPECT people to be so selfish that as soon at things aren't so rosy, it's perfectly acceptable to dump your spouse and find a new one. that is the part that is new in history.

Sorry I used the word degenerate to describe homosexuals. I just don't know what to call someone who is attracted to a group (males) who by nature are likely to do serious physical harm to any other male that is attempting to fondle their genitals.

Sounds pretty crazy to me, so I'll call them crazy instead of degenerate.

I make no apologies for using such words as degenerate or wicked; these are the terms our Creator uses to describe uses of the body which he never intended. I'll even go one further; They are wicked degenerates; I guess if you have an issue with this, take it up with the Lord.

cheers-
phil

**trueblue** · 24 Apr 2007 , 21:04 PM

I'm just not sure of the precise meaning of degenerate.

Before these "enlightened" times we live in now, they were called "queers", which means [quote]Main Entry: 1queer
Pronunciation: 'kwir
Function: adjective
Etymology: origin unknown
1 a : WORTHLESS, COUNTERFEIT <queer money> b : QUESTIONABLE, SUSPICIOUS
2 a : differing in some odd way from what is usual or normal b (1) : ECCENTRIC, UNCONVENTIONAL (2) : mildly insane : TOUCHED c : absorbed or interested to an extreme or unreasonable degree : OBSESSED d (1) often disparaging : HOMOSEXUAL (2) sometimes offensive : GAY 4b
3 : not quite well
- queer·ish /-ish/ adjective
- queer·ly adverb
- queer·ness noun
usage Over the past two decades, an important change has occurred in the use of queer in sense 2d. The older, strongly pejorative use has certainly not vanished, but a use by some gay people and some academics as a neutral or even positive term has established itself. This development is most noticeable in the adjective but is reflected in the corresponding noun as well. The newer use is sometimes taken to be offensive, especially by older gay men who fostered the acceptance of gay in these uses and still have a strong preference for it.[quote]

That works for me!

**PrussianBlue** · 25 Apr 2007 , 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Phil Jayhan

I make no apologies for using such words as degenerate or wicked; these are the terms our Creator uses to describe uses of the body which he never intended. I'll even go one further; They are wicked degenerates; I guess if you have an issue with this, take it up with the Lord.

cheers-
phil

my bolding

Now this is interesting Phil!

You previously stated that you do not subscribe to the catholic god yet you make these comments about "our creator"
Comments which come directly from the catholic dogma.

Could you perhaps describe this thing you call "our creator"? and where you get these terms about homosexuality from?

If you are not interested in divulging your personal belief system I completley understand. Just curious.

If there was a lord then yes, I would certainly have a chat with him/her/it about it.

Cheers

**trueblue** · 26 Apr 2007 , 13:29 PM

PB,

In a number of your posts you make comments about a number of things that lead me to believe that you are ignorant of a LOT of facts.
The Catholic church did NOT write the Bible, and in no way are they responsible for what is written therein. that;s not my opinion, that's a fact.

Phil has based his comments on the Bible, not on the Catholic church.

It's clear you do not believe the Bible, and that's your choice. But if your unbelief derives from your ignorance of history,that is easily remedied.
It's not a leap of faith for anyone to beleive Jesus existed, it's a matter of historical record.
It's one thing to say you don't believe Jesus is the son of God, but quite another to say He never exsted.
the events of history attest to the truth, study it!

Phil Jayhan · 27 Apr 2007 , 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by trueblue

PB,

In a number of your posts you make comments about a number of things that lead me to believe that you are ignorant of a LOT of facts.
The Catholic church did NOT write the Bible, and in no way are they responsible for what is written therein. that;s not my opinion, that's a fact.

Phil has based his comments on the Bible, not on the Catholic church.

It's clear you do not believe the Bible, and that's your choice. But if your unbelief derives from your ignorance of history,that is easily remedied.
It's not a leap of faith for anyone to beleive Jesus existed, it's a matter of historical record.
It's one thing to say you don't believe Jesus is the son of God, but quite another to say He never exsted.
the events of history attest to the truth, study it!

Ditto's and Amen~!

cheers-
phil

**PrussianBlue** · 28 Apr 2007 , 06:13 AM

You talk about "historical record"

and

"It's one thing to say you don't believe Jesus is the son of God, but quite another to say He never exsted.
the events of history attest to the truth, study it!"

What you know as history is a fairytale.

I have studied it for 25 years, I know the facts. I also know full well it is futile to attempt to logic with the likes of you. I won't bother. Good riddance you say, I am sure.

**trueblue** · 28 Apr 2007 , 12:36 PM

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What you know as history is a fairytale.

I have studied it for 25 years, I know the facts. I also know full well it is futile to attempt to logic with the likes of you. I won't bother. Good riddance you say, I am sure.

You must know a FACT that no one else knows. 2000 years of religious nonsense could have been prevented by your FACTS.
Where are they?

Good Riddance?! Hardly. If you have knowledge of some historical fact that PROVES Jesus never existed, I'm sure the whole world is waiting anxiously to hear it!!!

at least you're honest enough to know you have nothing to debate with.

**PrussianBlue** · 29 Apr 2007 , 04:39 AM

Many people know the truth. Many are also hesitant to debate with fools.

I quote you're own signature back at you.

A LIE BELIEVED BY EVERYBODY IS NOT THE TRUTH

I am trying to find a way to de register myself from this forum.

24 Apr 2007 , 21:04 PM	#14
trueblue Moderator Join Date: 9 Feb 2005 Location: United States Posts: 4,079 Threads: 116 Blog Entries: 3 Thanked 102 Times in 70 Posts	I'm just not sure of the precise meaning of degenerate. Before these "enlightened" times we live in now, they were called "queers", which means [quote]Main Entry: 1queer Pronunciation: 'kwir Function: adjective Etymology: origin unknown 1 a : WORTHLESS, COUNTERFEIT <queer money> b : QUESTIONABLE, SUSPICIOUS 2 a : differing in some odd way from what is usual or normal b (1) : ECCENTRIC, UNCONVENTIONAL (2) : mildly insane : TOUCHED c : absorbed or interested to an extreme or unreasonable degree : OBSESSED d (1) often disparaging : HOMOSEXUAL (2) sometimes offensive : GAY 4b 3 : not quite well - queer·ish /-ish/ adjective - queer·ly adverb - queer·ness noun usage Over the past two decades, an important change has occurred in the use of queer in sense 2d. The older, strongly pejorative use has certainly not vanished, but a use by some gay people and some academics as a neutral or even positive term has established itself. This development is most noticeable in the adjective but is reflected in the corresponding noun as well. The newer use is sometimes taken to be offensive, especially by older gay men who fostered the acceptance of gay in these uses and still have a strong preference for it.[quote] That works for me! __________________ A LIE BELIEVED BY EVERYBODY IS NOT THE TRUTH

26 Apr 2007 , 13:29 PM	#16
trueblue Moderator Join Date: 9 Feb 2005 Location: United States Posts: 4,079 Threads: 116 Blog Entries: 3 Thanked 102 Times in 70 Posts	PB, In a number of your posts you make comments about a number of things that lead me to believe that you are ignorant of a LOT of facts. The Catholic church did NOT write the Bible, and in no way are they responsible for what is written therein. that;s not my opinion, that's a fact. Phil has based his comments on the Bible, not on the Catholic church. It's clear you do not believe the Bible, and that's your choice. But if your unbelief derives from your ignorance of history,that is easily remedied. It's not a leap of faith for anyone to beleive Jesus existed, it's a matter of historical record. It's one thing to say you don't believe Jesus is the son of God, but quite another to say He never exsted. the events of history attest to the truth, study it! __________________ A LIE BELIEVED BY EVERYBODY IS NOT THE TRUTH

28 Apr 2007 , 06:13 AM	#18
PrussianBlue Reader Join Date: 5 Feb 2007 Posts: 53 Threads: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	You talk about "historical record" and "It's one thing to say you don't believe Jesus is the son of God, but quite another to say He never exsted. the events of history attest to the truth, study it!" What you know as history is a fairytale. I have studied it for 25 years, I know the facts. I also know full well it is futile to attempt to logic with the likes of you. I won't bother. Good riddance you say, I am sure.

29 Apr 2007 , 04:39 AM	#20
PrussianBlue Reader Join Date: 5 Feb 2007 Posts: 53 Threads: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Many people know the truth. Many are also hesitant to debate with fools. I quote you're own signature back at you. A LIE BELIEVED BY EVERYBODY IS NOT THE TRUTH I am trying to find a way to de register myself from this forum.