OK
Thanks for that clarification Phil.
Mighty interesting.

Cheers

PrussianBlue;
When I use the term, love, at least in this context, I don't mean "liking something a lot" , or "it makes me feel good",which seems to be the normal usage of this overused word. I think it's this misunderstanding of love that is the basis for all the "mismatches" we see today. The traditional marriage vows embody the true spirit of love very well, and trying to live up to those vows can teach a lot about the nature of love.
I've been married twice, so I have no problem believing that marriage has ALWAYS been difficult! But our modern culture seems to EXPECT people to be so selfish that as soon at things aren't so rosy, it's perfectly acceptable to dump your spouse and find a new one. that is the part that is new in history.

Sorry I used the word degenerate to describe homosexuals. I just don't know what to call someone who is attracted to a group (males) who by nature are likely to do serious physical harm to any other male that is attempting to fondle their genitals. Sounds pretty crazy to me, so I'll call them crazy instead of degenerate.

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I make no apologies for using such words as degenerate or wicked; these are the terms our Creator uses to describe uses of the body which he never intended. I'll even go one further; They are wicked degenerates; I guess if you have an issue with this, take it up with the Lord.

cheers-
phil

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I'm just not sure of the precise meaning of degenerate. Before these "enlightened" times we live in now, they were called "queers", which means [quote]Main Entry: 1queer
Pronunciation: 'kwir
Function: adjective
Etymology: origin unknown
1 a : WORTHLESS, COUNTERFEIT <queer money> b : QUESTIONABLE, SUSPICIOUS
2 a : differing in some odd way from what is usual or normal b (1) : ECCENTRIC, UNCONVENTIONAL (2) : mildly insane : TOUCHED c : absorbed or interested to an extreme or unreasonable degree : OBSESSED d (1) often disparaging : HOMOSEXUAL (2) sometimes offensive : GAY 4b
3 : not quite well
- queer·ish /-ish/ adjective
- queer·ly adverb
- queer·ness noun
usage Over the past two decades, an important change has occurred in the use of queer in sense 2d. The older, strongly pejorative use has certainly not vanished, but a use by some gay people and some academics as a neutral or even positive term has established itself. This development is most noticeable in the adjective but is reflected in the corresponding noun as well. The newer use is sometimes taken to be offensive, especially by older gay men who fostered the acceptance of gay in these uses and still have a strong preference for it.[quote]

That works for me!

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Now this is interesting Phil!

You previously stated that you do not subscribe to the catholic god yet you make these comments about "our creator"
Comments which come directly from the catholic dogma.

Could you perhaps describe this thing you call "our creator"? and where you get these terms about homosexuality from?

If you are not interested in divulging your personal belief system I completley understand. Just curious.

If there was a lord then yes, I would certainly have a chat with him/her/it about it.

Cheers

PB,

In a number of your posts you make comments about a number of things that lead me to believe that you are ignorant of a LOT of facts.
The Catholic church did NOT write the Bible, and in no way are they responsible for what is written therein. that;s not my opinion, that's a fact.

Phil has based his comments on the Bible, not on the Catholic church.

It's clear you do not believe the Bible, and that's your choice. But if your unbelief derives from your ignorance of history,that is easily remedied.
It's not a leap of faith for anyone to beleive Jesus existed, it's a matter of historical record.
It's one thing to say you don't believe Jesus is the son of God, but quite another to say He never exsted.
the events of history attest to the truth, study it!

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Ditto's and Amen~!

cheers-
phil

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"In disquisitions of every kind there are certain primary truths, or first principles, upon which all subsequent reasoning must depend." --Alexander Hamilton

You talk about "historical record"

and

"It's one thing to say you don't believe Jesus is the son of God, but quite another to say He never exsted.
the events of history attest to the truth, study it!"

What you know as history is a fairytale.

I have studied it for 25 years, I know the facts. I also know full well it is futile to attempt to logic with the likes of you. I won't bother. Good riddance you say, I am sure.

You must know a FACT that no one else knows. 2000 years of religious nonsense could have been prevented by your FACTS.
Where are they?

Good Riddance?! Hardly. If you have knowledge of some historical fact that PROVES Jesus never existed, I'm sure the whole world is waiting anxiously to hear it!!!

at least you're honest enough to know you have nothing to debate with.

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