Hey Steve, just listened to/watched your videos you have posted on your channel. Not sure how you remained that calm with Jim Fetzer talking over you for so long ! Anyway, 20+ years later, what camp are you ? What is your opinion NOW, after all of your research, time and effort ? Do you think there were any planes used at all ? Do you think there ever was a Betty Ong in general, or that made a fake or real phone call that day ? I would like to hear your thoughts. I am fairly young, and was very young when this occurred. I am backlogged 20+ years on research and have spent 20+ hours a week after working to research everything, and now most of the data we used to have online is gone due to the obvious and admitted to censorship. I am interested to hear your thoughts. EDIT: I am also interested in how you believe there were no planes. I have family member that was within 3 miles of the WTC that day that saw the plane from a fair distance out. I understand some of the no plane theories, but I personally know someone that saw an aircraft that day, and from the angle they were viewing it, they could see the plane enter the area of the towers, and no plane fly out from the other side.