Those cars belonged to ATC Sean Boger and Jackie Kidd, who both worked in the Heliport tower.
This was their regular assigned parking spot.
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This was their regular assigned parking spot.
Engine 61 certainly was there.
It was the first to arrive.
It was the first to spray foam on the fire.
My firefighter friend assures me that an engine of this size empties its foam capacity in 3 minutes.
The number did not "change from 61 to 01". That's just a rubbish photo.
Here are some new, time-stamped high quality photos that were only just released on April 4th, 2025.
Engine 61 a few minutes after arriving at the Pentagon, driving into position at 9:46 (the timestamp hadn't been corrected to daylight saving).
The infamous large piece of plane debris is laying there, where it landed, as seen on the Gatecam footage, and a couple of minutes later on an amateur video.
At 9:49 a.m., red Engine 61 starts spraying foam, first over the burning Heliport firetruck and Boger's car.
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Here's a screenshot at 01:16 from the amateur video, of red Engine 61 arriving (left side) from the Gatecam entrance.
Comparison with identical events in other videos and photos enables this to be time-stamped to within a couple of seconds of 9:40:30 a.m.
This is 2 minutes 56 seconds after the fireball.
Comparison with identical events in other videos and photos enables this to be time-stamped to within a couple of seconds of 9:40:30 a.m.
This is 2 minutes 56 seconds after the fireball.
At 01:55, the plane debris is seen on the lawn, where it landed during the fireball, as seen on the Gatecam footage.
This corresponds to 9:41:10 a.m.
At 03:35, red Engine 61 drives south over the helipad, as seen earlier in the high definition photo, which was timestamped to 9:46 a.m.
There has been a brief break in filming just before this scene was taken, so there is a slight timing discrepancy here between the two sources.
This corresponds to 9:41:10 a.m.
At 03:35, red Engine 61 drives south over the helipad, as seen earlier in the high definition photo, which was timestamped to 9:46 a.m.
There has been a brief break in filming just before this scene was taken, so there is a slight timing discrepancy here between the two sources.
I'm unimpressed by Jack White's Whatsits.
He apparently has a vivid imagination but no sense of perspective, and doesn't understand focal length, depth of field or foreshortening.
Here is an overhead of the Pentagon taken well after midday, according to the shadows.
The burned fire truck, Boger's and Kidd's vehicles have all been removed.
Red Engine 61 is still in situ on the southeast corner of the helipad, where it arrived at 9:44 a.m., according to time-stamped photos by Keith Wheelhouse.
Yellow Engine 331 has been and gone, along with other yellow fire trucks from Reagan Iternational.
But its former position is marked here.
There was a notable distance between these two trucks, and they were parked at different angles, about 120° to each other, which accounts for imaginary discrepancies claimed in the Whatsits blurb.
The relative distances between helipad, firehouse, firetrucks, vehicles and Pentagon wall can only be correctly appreciated on such a plan view.
He apparently has a vivid imagination but no sense of perspective, and doesn't understand focal length, depth of field or foreshortening.
Here is an overhead of the Pentagon taken well after midday, according to the shadows.
The burned fire truck, Boger's and Kidd's vehicles have all been removed.
Red Engine 61 is still in situ on the southeast corner of the helipad, where it arrived at 9:44 a.m., according to time-stamped photos by Keith Wheelhouse.
Yellow Engine 331 has been and gone, along with other yellow fire trucks from Reagan Iternational.
But its former position is marked here.
There was a notable distance between these two trucks, and they were parked at different angles, about 120° to each other, which accounts for imaginary discrepancies claimed in the Whatsits blurb.
The relative distances between helipad, firehouse, firetrucks, vehicles and Pentagon wall can only be correctly appreciated on such a plan view.
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