Todd Beamer 9/11 Victim: Wrong Photo Date in Rome! by: The Surgeon

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23 Aug 2010 , 06:45 AM

Conclusive evidence that Lisa Beamer lied concerning the whereabouts of Todd in Rome, Italy on September 8 & 9th, 2001.

According to Lisa Beamer's account in her book Let's roll!, she and husband Todd visited the Forum Romano in Rome on September 9, 2001.

Quote:
On Sunday (i.e., September 9) Todd and I viewed the ruinsaround Rome, including the Colosseum, the ancient Roman amphitheater where many early Christians were slaughtered by lions or gladiators.

Note: the Colosseum and the Forum (i.e., the "ruins") are next to one another.
Page 152, Let's roll!

Lisa Beamer stated they visited Florence, Italy on September 8, 2001.

Quote:
On Saturday, September 8, Todd and I took a day trip to Florence, ...
Page 150, Let's roll!
The photo caption and digital camera date below from Let's roll! shows Todd at the Forum Romano on September 8.

Why did Lisa Beamer lie about their whereabouts on September 8 & 9?
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Photo shows the columns from the Temple of Saturn at the Forum Romano, Rome in the background. There is no evidence of Todd being photoshopped into the photo.

Has the Digital Camera Date been Photoshopped?

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Note the spacing between the "9" and "8". The spacing seems to be too much. Were the date numbers photoshopped? And if yes, why?

Time Photo Was Taken

Using Google Earth and the Sunrays program I calculated the sun position on September 8, 2001. Based on the shadows of the columns of the Temple of Saturn, the photo time is about 12:00 noon -- assuming this photo was actually taken on that date.

The sun/shadow angle analysis below shows with the blue line the angle of the sun at 12:00 noon; the yellow circle with arrow shows where the photo was taken and direction of the photo shot.

Note: I've been to the Forum at this exact location more than once and know the area.

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Did Lisa Beamer Make a Mistake?

Debunkers could claim that Lisa got her dates mixed up AND the photo has the wrong date, by one day. It is very unlikely that BOTH her account and the digital photo date are wrong.

According to Lisa Beamer:

On Sunday September 9 there was a black tie dinner hosted by Oracle (Todd's employer). The Rome trip was supposedly organized for approximately 500 Oracle employees and their spouses.

The distance from Rome to Florence is 175 miles (285 km). Travel time by car is three hours; four hours by train. Round trip Rome - Florence - Rome is a minimum of six hours, without sight seeing.. (Note: I have traveled from Rome to Florence.)

It would be difficult to travel from Rome to Florence, see the sights, have lunch, and return in time for a black tie dinner, which usually starts at 6 - 7:00 PM.

Therefore, her account that they visited Florence on Saturday September 8 would make sense. And, visiting the Forum in Rome on Sunday September 9 would also make sense since they had a black tie dinner that night and would depart on Monday September 10 at 4:30 AM from Rome airport. However, the photo and caption shows Todd at the Forum on September 8.

Why did Lisa Beamer lie about their whereabouts on September 8 & 9? The caption and photo shows Todd in Rome on Saturday September 8 at about noon. They did not go to Florence on September 8 - they were in Rome. Where was Todd on Sunday September 9?
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Photo Showing Reverse Angle of Todd's Photo

Photo I took at the Forum, circled area shows where Todd's photo would have been taken from.


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Additional Proof Todd's Photo is Genuine

One member here was not convinced Todd's photo is genuine -- namely that the photo angle was not possible. I was able to find a photo with the exact same angle. Here is the comparison.

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The comparison photo I found.
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Link to original comparison photo:
http://ancientrome.ru/art/artworken/img.htm?id=1582

Closeup of Todd's Sunglasses

Through his left sunglasses' lens you can see the arm of the glasses and some detail of the Temple.

The white line on his left lens is a reflection.

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Digital Camera Date

But, I still have a problem with the digital camera date. THAT looks photo shopped.

Note the spacing between the "9" and "8". The spacing seems to be too much. Were the date numbers photo shopped? And if yes, why?

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Oracle employee Jonathan Oomrigar & Todd Beamer

Thanks to Oxford82 at CBS 21 for this analysis. I have Lisa Beamer's book Let's roll! and confirm these points.

See thread: http://letsrollforums.com/9-11-fligh...7.html?t=22597

In this thread it shows Todd called Jonathon Oomrigar at about 3:30 AM California time.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oxford82

Jonathan Oomrigar
worked in one of Oracle's California offices and was one of Todd Beamer's favorite Oracle co-workers. Jonathan participated in the Oracle trip to Italy, and, before the trip to Italy, Jonathan and Todd had traveled together on business to Israel. (page 148 )

According to Todd's cell-phone records (which Lisa Beamer presumably saw after Todd died), Todd called Jonathan on the morning of 9/11/2001. According to Lisa, Todd and Jonathan spoke about Todd's San Francisco meetings. (page 191)

Presumably, Todd's phone records do not reveal the content of the conversation. So, only Todd and Jonathan would know for certain what the conversation was about. Since Todd is supposedly dead, Jonathan would be Lisa's source as to the content of the conversation.

So, what did Todd and Jonathan do in Israel? What did Todd and Jonathan discuss while they were in Italy? And what did Jonathan and Todd discuss on the morning of 9/11/2001?

http://community.whptv.com/forums/thread/1943018.aspx
Jonathan Oomrigar is now Oracle's Vice President of High Technology Industry Solutions
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