What happened to the passengers?

Mr Robot

New member
no plane crashes so no passengers.
North tower might have been hit by a little drone airplane. We don't know, but the south tower was definitly hit by something looking like a plane. Can you elaborate a bit on what has hit the south tower?

So what happened to Betty Ong? Her family seems to miss her, was she duped into a drill or is this all carefully crafted even for 20 years+ later?
 

simon baker

New member
Im not sure what happened to betty ong or the other alleged passengers. However we do know flight 11 and 77 never took off that day. we also know operation northwoods lays out a plan to fake victims. There are things you can know and things you have to believe. I choose to stick with what i can know.
 

simon baker

New member
I think her plane along with other planes involved with real passengers landed at cleveland hopkins airport. if she was really on a plane that day. just speculating considering reports coming out that day of emergency landings at hopkins.
 

Ramjam

Member
I think her plane along with other planes involved with real passengers landed at cleveland hopkins airport. if she was really on a plane that day. just speculating considering reports coming out that day of emergency landings at hopkins.
What about the two flights converging over Stewart Air Force base ? (Technically SANGB- Stewart Air National Guard Base)…That is a fact and we can see that from the provided radar data that day. If you can find it, play it on 2 or 4x speed and you can clearly see there was some changing in the aircraft that were on that route. As I keep asking of everyone, can you guys please share any info you have whether it be photos or PDFs. All info that was previously out there is now gone for good it seems.
 

Ramjam

Member
What do you make of Elias Davidsson’s book, “hijacking americas mind” ? I have a few thoughts as to what occurred to the passengers. I believe the flights boarded regularly, baggage and all. I believe that before they backed up from the gate, 4-8 government agents stood up and announced either there was a suspected threat on board or there was a drill that was to be run that day, maybe even with the promise of compensation. They were unloaded, walked down the staircase at the boarding gate, got onto a tram or shuttle and went to a nearby hangar. I think inside that hangar, they had a row of telephones, recording machines, other equipment, etc. lined up. These people were all asked to participate in this drill and to place phone calls that were on a 2-4 second controlled delay, that way if someone started to brake character, the agent could kill the call and prevent them from letting outsiders know of what was occurring. I think that’s why Betty Ong’s call; when asked numerous times “what seat are you in ?” She didn’t answer it 3 times in a row with a 2-3 second delay in even acknowledging the question, this due to the delay. I think they had most if not all of them do this, and they took the most salvageable recordings or calls and used them. I think calls were made in real time in basically all instances for the fact that Mark (Don’t you believe me) Bingham called an agent in California I believe, which then went to his moms sister in law, and then to his mother. If it were an imposter, they may have taken the sister in law as the mom and messed everything up. I think that once the phone calls were complete, they were either killed in a firing squad or mass gassing fashion. I think their bodies were then loaded onto pallets, wrapped, and brought back to the aircraft all within about 30 minutes. I think the flight was remote controlled for take off and flight. I think the flights were remote controlled and crashed with the bodies, their luggage and belongings into these designated places. I think having them loaded onto pallets after these agents had them make phone calls. I think that’s why we see Sweeney make multiple calls to a bogus number that was her FRIEND’S childhood home phone number in which she knew was inactive and wouldn’t be answered. I think the planning and execution of this was nearly flawless except for the fact that a few calls had some cries for help hidden within them, such as Ong and Sweeney’s multiple Flight 12 “slip ups” mixed in, Mark Bingham’s “you believe me, don’t you ?”, and Lyles’ “it’s a frame” slipped in. These calls needed to be produced, edited, and executed within such a short time span. They needed something. They also needed a few phone calls in which passengers reported “Arab, bomb around their waist, 2 boxes with yellow and red wires that look like a bomb, flight attendants stabbed, etc.) details thrown in to solidify the narrative. There are SO MANY inconsistencies in the phone calls that Davidsson points out in his book, it’s crazy to think anyone could believe they’re genuine. Please, let me know what you think of my concept !
 

Ramjam

Member
dead internet theory? seems like a ghost town around here
Funny you should mention the “dead internet theory” as I had an in-depth conversation about that very topic today. After seeing recent reports and statistics, I am beginning to believe the internet and its usage as we know it, or believe jt to be, isn’t quite right. I don’t think most internet activity is real at this point. Especially the “social media” they have fed to the masses…I don’t think it’s as widely used as we believe.
 

Vel

Well-known member
The planes were taken to a runway that could take the airliners. The passengers were then taken off and 'disposed' of.
 

Vel

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The planes were taken to a runway that could take the airliners. The passengers were then taken off and 'disposed' of.
Why do you think there were no bodies found or body parts for that fact? Only some scattered undamaged passports were strategically placed.
 

Vel

Well-known member
first and foremost, this has been covered before this site went down. A majority of these passengers were proven to have never existed or relatives to celebs in the industry. https://fakeologist.com/fakeopedia/...an_and_the_Key_Finding_of_the_Vicsim_Research

Betty Ong has a grave site. and there are pictures of her. But tampered images have been spewed with this psy op so best to research more if they are legit or not
So all those alleged phone calls made from the planes were all BS?
 

Ramjam

Member
So all those alleged phone calls made from the planes were all BS?
Of course they were fake ! Betty Ong mentions an "upstairs" on an aircraft that has no upstairs area. CeeCee Lyles at the end of her call, you can clearly make out "you did great" as her handlers probably reassured her she did "well". The phone calls from cell phones were not possible. The phone calls from airfones were the only option then, right ? Well, based upon research I've done, the airfones were either not activated, or were plugged in externally while the aircraft was on the ground. Let's not forget Betty Ong said she was in seat 3R. That seat, 3R, did not have an airfone, in which she claimed to be sitting in. Why did so few people place phone calls ? Were they being conscientious of spending any money on placing a phone call during a hijacking ? I know cell phones were scarce at that point back in 2001, but supposedly on flight 11, there were tons of working airfones....and only 2 people placed phone calls ? I think we can say that these people existed. I just can't see it that so many people knew them, had interactions with them, photos, etc. I believe, again, they were real, told they were apart of a drill, they participated, and were executed afterward. To seal the deal, all that had to be done was to load the bodies onto pallets and load them onto the aircraft. Have the aircraft flown remotely as a drone, send out the pre recorded communications that Atta supposedly sent out "accidentally" to ATC saying "we have some planes...." to let everyone know that "middle eastern men have taken the planes over" and crash these aircraft that had these bodies stuffed in there along with some explosives potentially. I think these were real people, told they were apart of a drill, they went and participated, and then were executed in a hangar with gas/firearms/etc., loaded onto the plane and it was remotely crashed. The rest is history.
 

Vel

Well-known member
Of course they were fake ! Betty Ong mentions an "upstairs" on an aircraft that has no upstairs area. CeeCee Lyles at the end of her call, you can clearly make out "you did great" as her handlers probably reassured her she did "well". The phone calls from cell phones were not possible. The phone calls from airfones were the only option then, right ? Well, based upon research I've done, the airfones were either not activated, or were plugged in externally while the aircraft was on the ground. Let's not forget Betty Ong said she was in seat 3R. That seat, 3R, did not have an airfone, in which she claimed to be sitting in. Why did so few people place phone calls ? Were they being conscientious of spending any money on placing a phone call during a hijacking ? I know cell phones were scarce at that point back in 2001, but supposedly on flight 11, there were tons of working airfones....and only 2 people placed phone calls ? I think we can say that these people existed. I just can't see it that so many people knew them, had interactions with them, photos, etc. I believe, again, they were real, told they were apart of a drill, they participated, and were executed afterward. To seal the deal, all that had to be done was to load the bodies onto pallets and load them onto the aircraft. Have the aircraft flown remotely as a drone, send out the pre recorded communications that Atta supposedly sent out "accidentally" to ATC saying "we have some planes...." to let everyone know that "middle eastern men have taken the planes over" and crash these aircraft that had these bodies stuffed in there along with some explosives potentially. I think these were real people, told they were apart of a drill, they went and participated, and then were executed in a hangar with gas/firearms/etc., loaded onto the plane and it was remotely crashed. The rest is history.
Practising their pys op routines for things to come.
 
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